New Released Clean 3285 Movement(from Dandong) Compared With GEN and Shanghai 3285 Movement

[promax01]

I heard that the old 3135 movement can’t fit in the newer clean case. Can you you confirm please? @CTime

As I love the VS3235 movement, but the movement can’t be buy easily as vr3235 when it’s time that need to replace.

 

[QQ0]

I heard that the old 3135 movement can’t fit in the newer clean case. Can you you confirm please? @CTime

3135 is the submarine series movement isn't it?

I also read somewhere , ( maybe from steve) that the case shape has been updated

 

[QQ0]

3135 is the submarine series movement isn't it?

I also read somewhere , ( maybe from steve) that the case shape has been updated

GMT Master II 126710blnr (Batman) Gen and clean comparison

Hello, everyone. Here is Steve, as you all know, the long-awaited 3285 movement is finally released! It comes from the Dandong movement factory and is currently used exclusively by the Clean factory, and the quality of the GMT Master II series from the clean factory has also long been recognized...

forum.replica-watch.info

 

[PoC]

Does anyone know the weight of 126711 rootbeer?

 

[Pure78]

I think this has to be an SH3285 bro, for several reasons.

- SH stud screws are on the side of the stud. Where VS/DD (and VR too) has used stud screws they are on the end of the stud (see red dots in pics above).

- SH routes the hairspring anti-clockwise from the stud, VS/DD routes the hairspring clockwise from the stud.

- SH is the only other "true clone" 3285 known to exist. There have been some slight variations in these SH3285s, including starting out as a 3186 engraved as a 3285.

That the SH takes some gen parts is good, but pretty much every SH part is clearly inferior to the DD parts, as @CTime's excellent pics show.

@Mark1937

So SH3285 is based on 3235 right? So the lift angle on timegrapher is 53° right?

 

[Pure78]

I bought a 3285 clone from a Chinese contact a month ago, I perceived a high quality of materials, I would say that to me it looks exactly like a movement made from VS3235 then transformed into gmt 3285. I can tell you with certainty that this movement I bought accepts bridge and balance wheel gen. you will see many things that this movement has in common with VSF such as the quality of the engravings and the classic serial.

From what I see, this movement I bought is different from what is presented here and from what I see on Jtime

You put this 3285 movement on case CF?

 

[JuanSB]

@trailboss99 Also it could be interesting to compare the case thickness. Maybe I'm wrong but it seems that this new batch is a bit more thick than gen.

 

[KJ2020]

So SH3285 is based on 3235 right? So the lift angle on timegrapher is 53° right?

Yes both DD and SH 3285 are based on 3235. 53° is what the gen lift angle is. The rep movements should be in the same ballpark. I've measured the VS3235 lift angle to be 55° so it's probable the DD will be similar. Those two balances look identical.

 

[Pure78]

Yes both DD and SH 3285 are based on 3235. 53° is what the gen lift angle is. The rep movements should be in the same ballpark. I've measured the VS3235 lift angle to be 55° so it's probable the DD will be similar. Those two balances look identical.

And sh3285 C+ which lift angle? Are you able to measure that too?

 

[KJ2020]

And sh3285 C+ which lift angle? Are you able to measure that too?

Yes any balance can have its lift angle measured.

 

[Samgobigs]

I have one on the way to me, I will be able to tell you first hand soon enough.

Who else has any points they would like me to specifically look at when the watch arrives?

Hi Trailboss99:

1. Would like your thoughts on the quality of the AR coating on the cyclops and the black hole effect. I handled earlier versions of the CF Batman and it wasn’t very good imo.

2. Any more dancing hands while changing the time? I didn’t see any in the video and I think this new movement should not have this problem

3. If you happen to ordered the Pepsi and have access to UV light source can you shine it on the bezel and see if the whole thing turns red similar to gen?

Thanks!

 

[dogwood]

Yes both DD and SH 3285 are based on 3235. 53° is what the gen lift angle is. The rep movements should be in the same ballpark. I've measured the VS3235 lift angle to be 55° so it's probable the DD will be similar. Those two balances look identical.

The pallet forks look completely different. The DD3285 pallet fork looks like the gen 3235/3285 pallet fork; whereas the SH3285 pallet fork looks like a gen 3135 / vr3235 pallet fork. To me this implies the lift angles will be different.

 

[Pure78]

The pallet forks look completely different. The DD3285 pallet fork looks like the gen 3235/3285 pallet fork; whereas the SH3285 pallet fork looks like a gen 3135 / vr3235 pallet fork. To me this implies the lift angles will be different.

But vr/sh3285 have same start serial number vsf
I think Shangai used the same movements as vsf and made some changes to make them 3285

 

[KJ2020]

The pallet forks look completely different. The DD3285 pallet fork looks like the gen 3235/3285 pallet fork; whereas the SH3285 pallet fork looks like a gen 3135 / vr3235 pallet fork. To me this implies the lift angles will be different.

I saw that bro but two other things to consider - the escape wheels DD/VS are the same (not gen-spec), and the DD/VS pallets themselves are not thinned like the gen. So really only one way to know for sure...

 

[KJ2020]

But vr/sh3285 have same start serial number vsf
I think Shangai used the same movements as vsf and made some changes to make them 3285

Serial number match just means the mainplate, not an indicator of any other parts sourcing.

 

[CTime]

I heard that the old 3135 movement can’t fit in the newer clean case. Can you you confirm please? @CTime

As I love the VS3235 movement, but the movement can’t be buy easily as vr3235 when it’s time that need to replace.

No, it can't fit, they've updated so many places.

 

[davidc]

does this mean that clean is discontinuing the older VR3186 models? Apart from the movement are there any other confirmed updates?

 

[derjenigewelcher]

does this mean that clean is discontinuing the older VR3186 models? Apart from the movement are there any other confirmed updates?

Do the reading mate...insert, triangle, bezel click...the knowledge is all in this subforum

 

[trailboss99]

I think Shangai used the same movements as vsf

Shanghai doesn't make watches, they are a movement company.

 

[derjenigewelcher]

Shanghai doesn't make watches, they are a movement company.

(Cant hold on that one, sorry....)

But wait, I always thought its a city???


Jokes besides; Chinese factorys are often called (not named) by their region/city where the companys are based: shanghai, dandong....