My dealer confirmed it is a SH3255 V2, no DD movement yet.
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Comprehensive Guide to Clone Movements Found in Rolex Reps
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I guess the old one is identical to the new one, just with a different balance bridge setup? I see a listing for a fair price and was wondering (they might even send the new one now, who knows)
grazie, è tutto estremamente interessante e dettagliato.
Ho il mio DJ 41 vsf al polso da circa due mesi. L'unico problema è che perde circa 30 secondi al giorno, non conosco nessun orologiaio che sappia regolare la regolazione sulle proprie mani, credo che dovrò farlo io stesso.
Le viti del bracciale jubilee continuano a svitarsi. Credo che ci metterò un bloccafiletti, altrimenti è davvero bello.
Sinceramente non vedo il motivo di spendere soldi per un gen. Ora credo che ordinerò il submariner 126610 lv, sono un po' indeciso tra vsf o clean... ma sono sicuro che in ogni caso non farò la scelta sbagliata...
Grazie per le mille informazioni davvero interessanti che ho dato a tutti voi.
Ho il mio DJ 41 vsf al polso da circa due mesi. L'unico problema è che perde circa 30 secondi al giorno, non conosco nessun orologiaio che sappia regolare la regolazione sulle proprie mani, credo che dovrò farlo io stesso.
Le viti del bracciale jubilee continuano a svitarsi. Credo che ci metterò un bloccafiletti, altrimenti è davvero bello.
Sinceramente non vedo il motivo di spendere soldi per un gen. Ora credo che ordinerò il submariner 126610 lv, sono un po' indeciso tra vsf o clean... ma sono sicuro che in ogni caso non farò la scelta sbagliata...
Grazie per le mille informazioni davvero interessanti che ho dato a tutti voi.
thanks it's extremely interesting and detailed all of this.
I've had my DJ 41 vsf on my wrist for about two months. The only problem is that it loses about 30 seconds a day, I don't know any watchmakers who can adjust the adjustment on their hands, I think I'll have to do it myself.
The screws on the jubilee bracelet keep unscrewing. I think I'll put a thread lock on it, otherwise it's really beautiful.
I honestly don't see the reason to spend the money on a gen. Now I think I'll order the submariner 126610 lv, I'm a bit undecided between vsf or clean... but I'm sure that in any case I won't make the wrong choice...
Thanks for the thousand very interesting information to all of you.
I've had my DJ 41 vsf on my wrist for about two months. The only problem is that it loses about 30 seconds a day, I don't know any watchmakers who can adjust the adjustment on their hands, I think I'll have to do it myself.
The screws on the jubilee bracelet keep unscrewing. I think I'll put a thread lock on it, otherwise it's really beautiful.
I honestly don't see the reason to spend the money on a gen. Now I think I'll order the submariner 126610 lv, I'm a bit undecided between vsf or clean... but I'm sure that in any case I won't make the wrong choice...
Thanks for the thousand very interesting information to all of you.
Afternoon all, I’ve been thoroughly reading this thread on the differences between the VR3255 movements for 36mm QF DayDates compared to the GMF version with A2836 movement. Most TD’s seem to offer both and wondered, given the VR3255 came in out in 2023, is it safe to now go with this movement or is it best to stick with A2836? Thank you!!!
It depends on what your priorities are. We haven’t seen many failures of the vr3255 like we did with the early sh3285 which had a weak setting lever. However that might have been due to sampling bias — we saw rapid adoption of the sh3285 in popular GMT models, so there were a lot more sh3285 setting levers out there to break. We know the vr3255 is based on the same design as the sh3285, so it likely shares the same weak setting lever issue. Or, it shared that issue when it was first released. We haven’t seen many broken vr3285 setting levers recently, so it’s possible (likely) that Shanghai has fixed the issue. So I’d say the vr3255 v2 is probably a safe movement at this point.
The other consideration is weight. Day dates are all precious metal and many of the reps now come in tungsten ballasted configurations. The vr3255 is a larger movement than the 2836, so there’s less room for tungsten ballast. If weight is your priority, then go with the eta clone.
Another consideration is instant date change. The eta movement has a slow date change near midnight. I haven’t handled a vr3255 on my bench so I don’t know if both the day and date change instantly at midnight (if anyone knows, please chime in). So that’s another thing to consider.
Posted updated:
Updated to include information about the revision of the SH3255 (aka VR3255) which moves the beat adjustor and regulator to face outwards; this movement is being incorrectly called a DD3255 on some TD websites -- this is false, there is no DD3255 as of this update. I also added a section about the weight gain options for Day Date reps and how this affects the choice of movements. Finally, I update includes info on the 24-subdial version of the SH4132 in QF watches. It has been confirmed that there is a version of the SH4132 which has a 24 hour counter sub-dial (not 12-hours which is normal for the movement). I am calling this version of the movement the QF4132. Hat tip to @Soxxgo2 for the confirmation of the 24-hour functionality.
Updated to include information about the revision of the SH3255 (aka VR3255) which moves the beat adjustor and regulator to face outwards; this movement is being incorrectly called a DD3255 on some TD websites -- this is false, there is no DD3255 as of this update. I also added a section about the weight gain options for Day Date reps and how this affects the choice of movements. Finally, I update includes info on the 24-subdial version of the SH4132 in QF watches. It has been confirmed that there is a version of the SH4132 which has a 24 hour counter sub-dial (not 12-hours which is normal for the movement). I am calling this version of the movement the QF4132. Hat tip to @Soxxgo2 for the confirmation of the 24-hour functionality.
First saw this re-posted on Reddit. This is AWESOME info. As confusing as the clone world is at first, the movements themselves are the most confusing part!
Interesting. Where did you see this re-posted on reddit? I posted the original version there several years ago, but I stopped updating that version since Reddit limits posts to 20 images. My original Reddit version now has a note and a link at the top of the post telling people to come this version which I try to keep up to date. But I know this article has been re-published (by others) elsewhere. I don't mind the article being shared elsewhere, but I worry that there will be zombie / out of date versions published elsewhere that will fall out of date over time if they don't include a link to this canonical version.
Yup that’s the OG version. And it has the link to this version so hopefully folks who find the Reddit version will make their way here for the latest and greatest edition.I'm assuming this is your OP on reddit, because the link is there.