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GMT former VR3186 movement disassembled pictures

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Hi people there!

The earliest GMT was modified from the 2836 movement (Hangzhou Movement Factory), and it was specially customized for the Noob factory. But it is not a 1:1 molding movement, only the GMT function was added. And there is a problem with the order of its hands. The order of the GEN hands are: hour→GMT→minute→second, but Hangzhou 2836 is GMT→hour→minute→second.

Around 2020, Shanghai factory built a 1:1 3186 movement based on the 2836. The VR factory was the first put into use, so forum members call it VR3186. After that, many movement factories also used this movement. Until Clean, all the accessories were upgraded, especially the ceramic bezels.

The 3186 movement was not stable at the beginning, and there were various calendar stucking problems. There was no 3285 1:1 movement before, so they were all 126710 styles. Until recently, with the Shanghai and Dandong 3285 movement. The model is updated to 126720.

The following is the disassembling pictures of 3186. The GEN has 40 hours of power reserve, and the same for Shanghai 3186, there is no difference in power reserve.

Let's have a look↓







 

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Another awesome pictorial comparison, thanks so much!

Check your pic of the Date Indicator, the gen is the one with white teeth and white outer edge.

3OD3zS.jpg


Really exceptional presentation!
 
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another fantastic thread. These threads are the reason why all my future business is going to go to CTIME.

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Really awesome comparison Ctime! Slightly off topic but I've got a question about the new 3285 movements. I've seen couple of videos of new Clean GMT's with a wobble GMT hand when adjusting the hour hand (reckon this is with an VR3186 movement) and some like your vid's on yt with a stable GMT hand while adjusting the hour hand (reckon this is DD3285) Can you please confirm?
 

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Great write up. I have an order in for a 116710 BLNR with a VR3186. No QC pics yet so I'm wondering if they've had their run and everything is moving to the DD3285.
 

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Really awesome comparison Ctime! Slightly off topic but I've got a question about the new 3285 movements. I've seen couple of videos of new Clean GMT's with a wobble GMT hand when adjusting the hour hand (reckon this is with an VR3186 movement) and some like your vid's on yt with a stable GMT hand while adjusting the hour hand (reckon this is DD3285) Can you please confirm?
There is no hands wobble while hour jumping on gen or rep true clone 3285 (SH3285 DD3285)
 
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Great write up. I have an order in for a 116710 BLNR with a VR3186. No QC pics yet so I'm wondering if they've had their run and everything is moving to the DD3285.
pretty sure they are phasing them out Li has already took down most old CF listings with 3186 and why complicate the assembly line with two different movements, CF already "claims" they have exclusivity so it will differentiate them from everyone else.
 
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There is no hands wobble while hour jumping on gen or rep true clone 3285 (SH3285 DD3285)
Thank you @KJ2020 that’s all I want to know! It’s a bit confusing since clean released two of the same GMT’s with different movements (VR3186 DD3285)
 

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Superb pictures and detailed explanations there !! Many thanks for the effort !
 
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Another awesome pictorial comparison, thanks so much!

Check your pic of the Date Indicator, the gen is the one with white teeth and white outer edge.

3OD3zS.jpg


Really exceptional presentation!
Oh..really, It's wrong absolutely, sorry I didn't realize that🧐
 

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Really awesome comparison Ctime! Slightly off topic but I've got a question about the new 3285 movements. I've seen couple of videos of new Clean GMT's with a wobble GMT hand when adjusting the hour hand (reckon this is with an VR3186 movement) and some like your vid's on yt with a stable GMT hand while adjusting the hour hand (reckon this is DD3285) Can you please confirm?
They fix the jumping gmt hand on 3285, yes
 
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Just an FYI, my TD told me no more Clean 116710 BLNR with VR3186's are being made. :(
 

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Just an FYI, my TD told me no more Clean 116710 BLNR with VR3186's are being made. :(
I guess CLEAN doesn't care that all gen 116x series GMTs use the 3186. I think they are just not differentiating between the 126x models anymore.
 
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I guess CLEAN doesn't care that all gen 116x series GMTs use the 3186. I think they are just not differentiating between the 126x models anymore.
As I know, Clean is still producing 3186, customers can choose whatever they want