Tudor Pelagos in 2020

[Screwtape]

Super interested in a Palagos rep but my only remaining question has not been fully addressed. Can the Miyota movement be replaced with a new 9015 if something breaks? Not being able to rely on a movement being reliable/replaceable is an absolute deal breaker for me and the custom bridge is troubling for me.

 

[Troklo]

A lot of people say the Miyota rep is terrible, unreliable and keeps poor time as its a Miyota clone, and an ETA 2824 based clone is better....

​​​Errrrr not true, I have the one with the Miyota movement and it runs like a champ. One thing the Miyota sometimes have is a noisy rotor but this is easily fixed and as someone posted above, if you service it (something that is easy and cheap to do) you'll have a watch that can last you a very long time.

Regarding the blue or black they are both in the nwbig list so any of the two is good. I have the blue one and it really is a first class rep.

 

[Troklo]

Super interested in a Palagos rep but my only remaining question has not been fully addressed. Can the Miyota movement be replaced with a new 9015 if something breaks? Not being able to rely on a movement being reliable/replaceable is an absolute deal breaker for me and the custom bridge is troubling for me.

If some part breaks that is not interchangeable with a 9015 you can just put a non decorated movement in which doesn't matter since it's a closed back anyway.

 

[Screwtape]

My concern, and what has been reported in other similar circumstances, is that the modified movement is not at all interchangeable with a stock movement. That custom bridge is a potential game changer in this regard.

 

[mcchicken]

Have a question regarding scratches. Read some opposing articles and wanted to know if anyone owns both a Sub-C and a Pelagos and can comment as to which scratches more on the case/band/clasp. Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the Pelagos has a Ti case and band but the clasp and case back are SS.

 

[Troklo]

My concern, and what has been reported in other similar circumstances, is that the modified movement is not at all interchangeable with a stock movement. That custom bridge is a potential game changer in this regard.

Yes I'm aware of this but any good watchmaker should be able to make the movement fit.

That said remember that reps area bit of a luck of the draw you can have good or bad ones. This goes for any movement. Most of my reps have been OK and needed minor services when I have had problems but one of them also died on me and I wasn't able to source the parts I needed to make it work again, it just is what it is with reps and one has to accept this. If your concern is to have a truly reliable movement then I would suggest to get a gen around the same price range.

What want to say with all this is get your watch and enjoy it, most probably you'll be fine

 

[mcchicken]

Miyota is a good movement with trusted reliability. Shouldn’t have a problem and should be able to source parts of needed. Sometimes you do get a lemon but it’s rare nowadays, better QC from the TDs in my experience.

 

[mcchicken]

Brokedown and bought a XF v4 Pelogos with the Miyota 9015 movement from Andrew and got some QC pics back.

Can anyone help me determine if the 4-hour marker and the 10-hour marker are crooked, and/or the bezel?
I don't know if it is just the angle or the way they positioned the watch in the picture.
Any help and/or information would be appreciated, thanks

 

[germanherman]

The 4 houre marker is defenitly off, 10 too imho but far less noticable.

But I have two questions myself about the xf/v9v Version:

First of all, when we Talk about the noisy myota, how noisy is it realy? Is this one of those "macro shot" problems which are barely noticable in everyday life or are we talking about smth people next to me will hear in a silent environment?


Secondly I wonder if the watch can handle frequent exposure to water after service/waterproofing. It seems that some of sub reps lose the paint on their bezel Inserts after too mich water. Is this an issue with this watch?

 

[mcchicken]

Is it just me or are all of them having the same issue in the same place? Seems kind of odd... Feels like the same person is putting together the dials.

My QC pics also had a crooked 4 hour maker and 10 hour marker, so I have to wait for a new watch. TD says it will be another month before they make more.

 

[thenut]

Sel Gaps .... An elephant fits there

 

[Rickhardth]

The 4 houre marker is defenitly off, 10 too imho but far less noticable.

But I have two questions myself about the xf/v9v Version:

First of all, when we Talk about the noisy myota, how noisy is it realy? Is this one of those "macro shot" problems which are barely noticable in everyday life or are we talking about smth people next to me will hear in a silent environment?


Secondly I wonder if the watch can handle frequent exposure to water after service/waterproofing. It seems that some of sub reps lose the paint on their bezel Inserts after too mich water. Is this an issue with this watch?

I have one watch (gen) with a miyota movement. If by ‘loud’ people mean you can hear it, sure its ‘loud’. But I don’t consider it to be an issue. If anything it’s just a characteristic of the movement. Plus, you can always change the movement later on.


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[Rickhardth]

The 4 houre marker is defenitly off, 10 too imho but far less noticable.

But I have two questions myself about the xf/v9v Version:

First of all, when we Talk about the noisy myota, how noisy is it realy? Is this one of those "macro shot" problems which are barely noticable in everyday life or are we talking about smth people next to me will hear in a silent environment?


Secondly I wonder if the watch can handle frequent exposure to water after service/waterproofing. It seems that some of sub reps lose the paint on their bezel Inserts after too mich water. Is this an issue with this watch?

I have one watch (gen) with a miyota movement. If by ‘loud’ people mean you can hear it, sure its ‘loud’. But I don’t consider it to be an issue. If anything it’s just a characteristic of the movement. Plus, you can always change the movement later on.

 

[germanherman]

I have one watch (gen) with a miyota movement. If by ‘loud’ people mean you can hear it, sure its ‘loud’. But I don’t consider it to be an issue. If anything it’s just a characteristic of the movement. Plus, you can always change the movement later on.

Thanks for the reply, the issue for me is that this characteristic is not smth the gen has so I would consider it an Instant tell that is much much worse then any misaligned dw or too broad sel Gap.

I'm somewhat confused a watch with such a tell is considered NWBIG, I understand that due to the medium we use the optical aspects are the primary Point of discussion but If people can cleaely hear the watch is a rep what good does all the right fonts and dimensions do?

I guess I have to buy one and see for myself if it bothers me.

 

[Nick010]

Well I just received one and yes you can hear it. But that is when u shake with it. On the wrist movement u won't hear it. If you buy it to claim it's a real one.. then I suggest u focus on a other watch.

 

[Rickhardth]

I think the issue with the ‘noise’ is a bit overrated. All automatic movements have a rotor thus all make some noise. It’s just that Miyotas rotors can be a bit louder (which can be solved by oiling it). Miyotas are made by Citizen and they’re a very successful watch brand either using this movement themselves or supplying them to other brands. If it was that much of an issue surely this movement wouldn’t be as successful.

Have you tried checking on youtube just to get a feel of how much noise it makes?


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[remembertofocus]

I think the issue with the ‘noise’ is a bit overrated. All automatic movements have a rotor thus all make some noise. It’s just that Miyotas rotors can be a bit louder (which can be solved by oiling it). Miyotas are made by Citizen and they’re a very successful watch brand either using this movement themselves or supplying them to other brands. If it was that much of an issue surely this movement wouldn’t be as successful.

Have you tried checking on youtube just to get a feel of how much noise it makes?

link to how to oil? my Miyota rotor is loud too...I opened it up at a watchsmith and they showed me the play and explained the bearing was worn/loose?
the watch is like a week old. just got it in from Josh. disappointed in that. it's running a tad slow too.

I'll work on uploading some videos soon too.

 

[germanherman]

Well I just received one and yes you can hear it. But that is when u shake with it. On the wrist movement u won't hear it. If you buy it to claim it's a real one.. then I suggest u focus on a other watch.

That was my question, if it's noticable on the wrist. I don't plan to play squash with it wont bother me If it's only noticable when performing "extreme" movements. I intend to get the watch serviced to make sure it's waterproof so oiling the Rotor wouldn't be a big problem.

Overall I prefer a genuine myota over a cloned eta and the xf over over the zf. The "noise" issue ist Just somewhat hard to grasp over the Internet or YouTube videos. But given your responses I think it's not such a big deal overall.

As for my other question, I would Like to use this as my daily beater, as the pelagos hast lume in the bezel I wonder if this is a problem when the watch gets wet? I plan to service it to make sure it's waterproofed but that wont do any good if it starts loosing the lume after some exposure to water. Anyone around that mishandled this watch bravely enough to tell us if it will survive the occasional shower?

Thanks a Lot for your Input!

 

[mcchicken]

The bezel apparently has some clear coat to protect it, I read on the forums that someone mentioned flaking after soaking the watch in mineral oil or baby oil, can't remember.

 

[Rickhardth]

Looks like acetone does the trick on the bezel:
https://forum.replica-watch.info/forum/tudor/299486-tudor-pelagos-bezel-issue