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KW PAM292-O Ceramic - [ QC pics allowed ] *******
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Was about to PM Sead to order the new 292 but my OCD kicks in and demanded me to some research. These are some flaws that I've noticed by comparing gen pictures with the ones on Intime as they have nice and clear pictures. As you can see, the rim on the gen crown has mirror polished surface while on the rep, its dull, probably sandblasted(?). As for the edges, indeed gen ones have sharper corners but like Ale said, they are not noticeable in real life. From what i've seen on other pictures, the dial looks spot on. Nice fonts and pretty accurate colour too.
I have my qc pictures from Jordan at intime if it would be of interest:
I have asked for a picture of the movement and a time graph shot, both of which I'll post I've I receive them. I'd expect tomorrow (Monday).
I'd be keen on your opinions also by the way...
I have asked for a picture of the movement and a time graph shot, both of which I'll post I've I receive them. I'd expect tomorrow (Monday).
I'd be keen on your opinions also by the way...
- 18/1/11
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- 18/1/11
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Thanks in advance for the new pics
The dial as said by kampachi seems spot on
The watch seems as good as expected
The pics are not good enough to make more comments
ALE
Yeah I'd agree (hello Ale, by the way, read all your posts, very informative). Will post movement pictures when I receive them.
- 18/1/11
- 19,845
- 419
- 83
Ale, any chance you're going to order a KW 292 for review? The pictures look good and I have always been satisfied with KW products, but in this case it's competing against a really solid noob version. This is a watch that may warrant a four way comparison between gen, KW, noob and H-fact. Thanks to those of you who have posted some very helpful pictures. Anyway, I have been doing a little homework and have a few observations:
1. Dial: From what I can see from the photos, the dial on KW is really top notch. Compariing it to the pictures on the panerai site, nothing really stands out as a flaw. If Ale did one of his fancy analysis and super imposed the gen and KW dials, there might be some differences but nothing that would stop me from adding this watch to the collection.
Of all the 292 reps, the KW dial looks to be the best.
2. Case: I have always been impressed with the finish on KW's cases. My experience is, however, limited to SS watches. I am optimistic, but I'll wait to see some more photos and here from some of you "beta testers" first. I am really curious to see how it compares to the noob case, which is really nice!! Same goes for the color, which is really hard to judge from pictures. Based on pictures alone, the movement on the noob still looks better. The case back on the KW looks really good as well.
3. Movement: Although this watch has a solid CB, the engravings on the noob movement look deeper and wider like the gen. It is also apparent that KW is also using a I-incabloc. I am not sure whether noob is using the same updated movement on the 292 as it uses on the 111, but (if so) that would be a noteworthy upgrade. Maybe one of you noob 292 owners can way in on this point???
4. Crown: It appears that all of the makers are using DLC coated SS, which is a good thing IMO. The big radiomir crown is weak point on the watch that will bumped dinged and absorb impact if the watch is dropped. While ceramic is a harder and more scratch resistant material, it is far more brittle than SS. I would rather have a SS crown than worry about having a crown that can crack. As another member pointed out, the upper edge on the gen crown is polished. I can't tell whether this is the case on the KW (or noob and h-fac for that matter). The polished edge doesn't show in the photos on the panerai site, but that doesn't mean anything.
Anyway, looking forward to seeing some more pictorials and hearing from some of you KW v1 "beta testers".
1. Dial: From what I can see from the photos, the dial on KW is really top notch. Compariing it to the pictures on the panerai site, nothing really stands out as a flaw. If Ale did one of his fancy analysis and super imposed the gen and KW dials, there might be some differences but nothing that would stop me from adding this watch to the collection.
Of all the 292 reps, the KW dial looks to be the best. 2. Case: I have always been impressed with the finish on KW's cases. My experience is, however, limited to SS watches. I am optimistic, but I'll wait to see some more photos and here from some of you "beta testers" first. I am really curious to see how it compares to the noob case, which is really nice!! Same goes for the color, which is really hard to judge from pictures. Based on pictures alone, the movement on the noob still looks better. The case back on the KW looks really good as well.
3. Movement: Although this watch has a solid CB, the engravings on the noob movement look deeper and wider like the gen. It is also apparent that KW is also using a I-incabloc. I am not sure whether noob is using the same updated movement on the 292 as it uses on the 111, but (if so) that would be a noteworthy upgrade. Maybe one of you noob 292 owners can way in on this point???
4. Crown: It appears that all of the makers are using DLC coated SS, which is a good thing IMO. The big radiomir crown is weak point on the watch that will bumped dinged and absorb impact if the watch is dropped. While ceramic is a harder and more scratch resistant material, it is far more brittle than SS. I would rather have a SS crown than worry about having a crown that can crack. As another member pointed out, the upper edge on the gen crown is polished. I can't tell whether this is the case on the KW (or noob and h-fac for that matter). The polished edge doesn't show in the photos on the panerai site, but that doesn't mean anything.
Anyway, looking forward to seeing some more pictorials and hearing from some of you KW v1 "beta testers".
that's great...but now this has me wondering why they did such a big price drop...
I wouldn't jump to conclusions. They are competing against NOOB and H-Factory. I wouldn't at all shock me to find out they are willing to sell the watch at a loss to kill off the competition. They have typically driven down prices to hurt their competition---they have been doing this to ZF for the past two years. Why wouldn't they do it to noob and h-factory??