GMF released a GMT 3186 clone movement

[Doc brown]

Thanks for the confirmation on the movement bro. That's great news!

Especially with the VR, you can use hour jumping to set the date, but I would avoid setting the date backwards just as a precaution. That's just me, plenty of ppl use this movement like the gen. TBH I don't like to set my gen backwards and generally I don't.

A compromise on any rep GMT for date setting is to hour jump from 3AM to 9PM on the dial (18 jumps), then switch to position 3 and advance the hands forward manually from 9PM to 3AM which changes the date. Repeat for each needed date change. This keeps the stress off the jump click during date changes and dramatically reduces the time needed to advance each date. I use this technique even on the 2824 CHS timebomb, which I still have several of.

Of course if it's just one or even two days off the wrong way I've been known to just pull the stem and wait it out

Yes thank you my friend. I will definitely do that in future and possibly still buy a VR just in case. Do you by any chance oil the Jubilee bracelet? Does it give it a smoother feel? It feels very light and flimsy. I'm assuming its not as heavy as the Oyster so it appears to feel cheaper I suppose you could say. The quality is very good though. Just a pain to adjust links.

 

[Goon3r]

KJ2020 moving the date backwards, can this be done with the jumping hour and regular hour/minute setting?

I'm very tempted to test how my SH3186 handles going backwards in date, it seems to be performing well for me at the moment so dont want to break it!

Also you hour jump recommendation for only doing it between 3AM and 9PM, just read this now, but prior to i have moved the jumping hour the full 24 jumps to move the date forward and it all seemed ok. I was careful doing the jumps though, one jump, once finished do the next, i wasn't just 'turning turning turning'. I'll keep note of your technique next time i need to adjust the date

 

[KJ2020]

KJ2020 moving the date backwards, can this be done with the jumping hour and regular hour/minute setting?

I'm very tempted to test how my SH3186 handles going backwards in date, it seems to be performing well for me at the moment so dont want to break it!

Also you hour jump recommendation for only doing it between 3AM and 9PM, just read this now, but prior to i have moved the jumping hour the full 24 jumps to move the date forward and it all seemed ok. I was careful doing the jumps though, one jump, once finished do the next, i wasn't just 'turning turning turning'. I'll keep note of your technique next time i need to adjust the date

Yes you can turn the date back in either crown position 2 or 3 on a 3185/6. You need to go back several hours, maybe like to 9PM for it to change.

The first ARF SH3186 I worked on was so stiff trying to hour jump backwards that I stopped short of attempting it at all. I was sure the jump click would break.

 

[Fervid]

https://puretimewatch.io/rlx2020060902.html GMF V3 Pepsi? Shame about the insert.

 

[Doc brown]

https://puretimewatch.io/rlx2020060902.html GMF V3 Pepsi? Shame about the insert.

Yes shame. I am just about to order the Noob Pepsi and was hoping that someone would release something at a more realistic price. Looks like Noob it is.

 

[Hazing]

KJ2020 moving the date backwards, can this be done with the jumping hour and regular hour/minute setting?

I'm very tempted to test how my SH3186 handles going backwards in date, it seems to be performing well for me at the moment so dont want to break it!

Also you hour jump recommendation for only doing it between 3AM and 9PM, just read this now, but prior to i have moved the jumping hour the full 24 jumps to move the date forward and it all seemed ok. I was careful doing the jumps though, one jump, once finished do the next, i wasn't just 'turning turning turning'. I'll keep note of your technique next time i need to adjust the date

I’ve been going backwards and forwards on this model and it works fine.

 

[Goon3r]

Good to hear Hazing Im yet to go backwards on mine but carefully jumping forward has done me ok so far. I got my VR3185 in the post today but i’m going to keep the SH3186 inside whilst still functional, hopefully the rotor isnt scratching up my case back too badly.

Apprecaiate your note on going back to 9pm KJ2020 the one time i did try jump back i only went to 12, nothing happened so assumed you couldnt, next 30 day month ill try it!

 

[KJ2020]

https://puretimewatch.io/rlx2020060902.html GMF V3 Pepsi? Shame about the insert.

That's a VRF bro.

https://forum.replica-watch.info/for...pepsi-released

The GMF Pepsi was released a bit ago

https://puretimewatch.io/gmt-master...ion-on-bracelet-a3285-correct-hand-stack.html

 

[Bullflo3]

So I’m looking to get this GMT but my TD (Toro) claims that the side of the mid links are not wrapped, but rather exposed steel. Exactly opposite of what puretime photos show. Can a few of you guys check with your TD to see if you get the same answer?
Or better yet, do any of you already have QC photos of this watch?

https://puretimewatch.io/gmt-master...-gold-gmf-1-1-best-edition-sa3285-chs-v3.html

 

[KJ2020]

So I’m looking to get this GMT but my TD (Toro) claims that the side of the mid links are not wrapped, but rather exposed steel. Exactly opposite of what puretime photos show. Can a few of you guys check with your TD to see if you get the same answer?
Or better yet, do any of you already have QC photos of this watch?

https://puretimewatch.io/gmt-master...-gold-gmf-1-1-best-edition-sa3285-chs-v3.html

This issue almost always comes up when dealing with TT models. You may not be aware of some aspects of this issue.

1. TD website pics are not necessarily accurate representations of a current batch.

2. You may not actually get a sample from the current batch.

3. Samples vary, sometimes widely even within the same batch. Especially when it comes to this particular issue.

4. SEL mid-link coverage on a TT model is difficult to achieve flawlessly. You frequently get incomplete or thin coverage, or overspill onto the outer SEL links like in the pic below taken from PT.

ARF is the best at doing this and even they took til V3 on the Bluesy to get it mostly right. But I've seen the same overspill on some of those.

No one can tell you with certainty what your sample is going to look like til your TD has it in hand. Personally I would rather have bare SEL sides than an overspill where it shouldn't be. It isn't a big deal on the wrist, there are other tells just as visible if someone knows what to look for.

 

[Bullflo3]

This issue almost always comes up when dealing with TT models. You may not be aware of some aspects of this issue.

1. TD website pics are not necessarily accurate representations of a current batch.

2. You may not actually get a sample from the current batch.

3. Samples vary, sometimes widely even within the same batch. Especially when it comes to this particular issue.

4. SEL mid-link coverage on a TT model is difficult to achieve flawlessly. You frequently get incomplete or thin coverage, or overspill onto the outer SEL links like in the pic below taken from PT.

ARF is the best at doing this and even they took til V3 on the Bluesy to get it mostly right. But I've seen the same overspill on some of those.

No one can tell you with certainty what your sample is going to look like til your TD has it in hand. Personally I would rather have bare SEL sides than an overspill where it shouldn't be. It isn't a big deal on the wrist, there are other tells just as visible if someone knows what to look for.

Thanks for the response. I'm aware of most of that. I also noticed that they used the exact same pics for the wrapped clone movement version as they did for the plated 2836 version. I see people mention that it's not a big deal on the wrist, but idk, I kind of feel like it would be an eye sore for me personally. I have a VRF wrapped TT sub, side mid links and all and it looks pretty good with no over spill. Maybe it's one of those "good ones" eh? I was just hoping for the best with this particular GMT as I've waited some time for a solid version to release.

 

[KJ2020]

Thanks for the response. I'm aware of most of that. I also noticed that they used the exact same pics for the wrapped clone movement version as they did for the plated 2836 version. I see people mention that it's not a big deal on the wrist, but idk, I kind of feel like it would be an eye sore for me personally. I have a VRF wrapped TT sub, side mid links and all and it looks pretty good with no over spill. Maybe it's one of those "good ones" eh? I was just hoping for the best with this particular GMT as I've waited some time for a solid version to release.

I hear ya bro, maybe a 126715 is the way to go. GMF isn't well known for flawless TT SEL sides. You can see evidence of bleeding on this $1K wrapped Bluesy. I rejected it for horrific rehaut engraving on the left side. R's at 34 and 39 instead of 35 and 40, X at 43. Uneven spacing.

I quite like my 116718

 

[ATAK17]

So is the GMF version more stable then the ARF one for the 116710?
or which one is the way to go ootb?
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[KJ2020]

So is the GMF version more stable then the ARF one for the 116710?
or which one is the way to go ootb?
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GMF has started using the VR3185 movement. So yes it is generally regarded as better than ARF's SH3186.

Since you are looking for an LN, you could also consider the V9F. It also uses the VR3185 and is a reasonable contender. The V9F bicolor inserts are not as good as the GMF but their LN is OK.

https://forum.replica-watch.info/forum/rolex-tudor-replicas/8886160-new-v9f-gmts-pics-inside

 

[Fervid]

I actually love the V9F LN insert, number sizes and font is basically spot on, and then the BLNR insert released.... Wtf happened? Lol

 

[rockdaytona]

I thought the VRF Pepsi looked better than the GMF. A little light but overall better

 

[shigetty]

Hi all, I ordered GMF V3 and here’s my 1st rejected QC. Look at the frisbee GMT hand hole surround. Maybe they sent me V1 or V2 photos wrongly, or some V3 still have a frisbee GMT hand?

https://ibb.co/PhX13sL

 

[KJ2020]

Hi all, I ordered GMF V3 and here’s my 1st rejected QC. Look at the frisbee GMT hand hole surround. Maybe they sent me V1 or V2 photos wrongly, or some V3 still have a frisbee GMT hand?

https://ibb.co/PhX13sL

This isn't the first time I've seen the Frisbee GMT hand hole surround on QCs of a purported V3. Without a pic of the movement, it's difficult to know for certain. It is CHS though so the only other possibility is it's a 2824 CHS timebomb and the dial date window on those ETAs is slightly narrower. There is no SA3186 V2 or V1.

See how different the date window looks between a GMF ETA and an SA3186

You might ask Li for a movement pic, but there's nothing wrong with trying to get a V3 with a better GMT hand either. It would be a real shame if this is how the new V3 is going to come.

 

[shigetty]

@KJ2020
Thank you for your input, I appreciate it. I pointed out the GMT hand hole surround to Lana and she said she would replace it with an another piece. According to the Trusty’s website, now that it looks like some V2 GMTs come with the A3186 movement.
https://trustytime.shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_5&products_id=21365

If it’s true, that means I’m paying an additional 150USD for 904L. It would be a nightmare if it comes with the frisbee GMT hand.

 

[KJ2020]

@KJ2020
Thank you for your input, I appreciate it. I pointed out the GMT hand hole surround to Lana and she said she would replace it with an another piece. According to the Trusty’s website, now that it looks like some V2 GMTs come with the A3186 movement.
https://trustytime.shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_5&products_id=21365

If it’s true, that means I’m paying an additional 150USD for 904L. It would be a nightmare if it comes with the frisbee GMT hand.

Those V2s on Trusty are not SA3186 true clone movements. They are discounted 2824 timebombs, on clearance to get rid of old stock. Look at the movement pics for the key ID feature of the ETA autowind device. Together with the hour hand on the bottom of the hand stack, it positively IDs those as the 2824 timebomb.

If you are shown another one with a Frisbee GMT hand, I would REALLY want to see the movement pics before approval. Post them here if you want confirmation.