Building a 5513 - Tutorial

Megahz1 · 25/9/23

@Karbon74 Idk how to make spider dials. I guess gloss varnish + oven could do the trick but never tried.
@matzemedia Your build looks good! To fade the bezel further you should put it under the sun while submerged in bleach. I personally found the JKF crown really poor quality, but maybe it was updated (my JKF was from 2020).

1016 lover · 25/9/23

matzemedia said:
I bought some 5513 dials here a few weeks ago. So now I have the choice between 3 dials for the setup.
left: supplied JFK
middle: yuki
right: another JFK

I am not 100% convinced of any dial. Personally, I am a fan of colourful watches and so I chose the yuki. For the hands I go with some from Ali. They are compatible to eta movements and already in a yellow color. For my opinion it lookes a bit boring. What do you think?

This hands look nice, you know the exact reference? I tried lot ot them and for the moment not find the good ones

Karbon74 · 26/9/23

Megahz1 said:
@Karbon74 Idk how to make spider dials. I guess gloss varnish + oven could do the trick but never tried.
@matzemedia Your build looks good! To fade the bezel further you should put it under the sun while submerged in bleach. I personally found the JKF crown really poor quality, but maybe it was updated (my JKF was from 2020).

here is my crown. it's ok enough for me

matzemedia · 26/9/23

1016 lover said:
This hands look nice, you know the exact reference? I tried lot ot them and for the moment not find the good ones

Sorry no. It is more than 2 years ago, that I bought them.
A lot of people recogment hands from tigher-concept. May be you will find yours there.

matzemedia · 27/9/23

Initially, I changed the JKF crystal with a superdome tropic 19 crystal. Personally, I don't like this dome-style, so I changed it now to a more flat curve. Here you can see the different:

left: original JKF
middle: XS303.472 (Super Dome) by Sternkreuz
right: XS305.451 by Sternkreuz

And that is how it looks like:

Karbon74 · 27/9/23

matzemedia said:
Initially, I changed the JKF crystal with a superdome tropic 19 crystal. Personally, I don't like this dome-style, so I changed it now to a more flat curve. Here you can see the different:

left: original JKF
middle: XS303.472 (Super Dome) by Sternkreuz
right: XS305.451 by Sternkreuz

And that is how it looks like:

I also bought both

I am travelling right now. I can't wait to compare our builds

C Master · 27/9/23

matzemedia said:
right: XS305.451 by Sternkreuz

I prefer this one myself. A lot lower profile but I think it looks better.

Karbon74 · 29/9/23

Got the Cousins deliver in just a few days. I was impressed.

Now, the cousins bezel insert does not match well with the domed cousins crystal. About 0.2mm more on the crystal and the assembly does not snap. I kept the over faded cartel insert It grew on me.

Other issue, the fat springbars are too big for the endlinks. Need to figure this out now

C Master · 29/9/23

Karbon74 said:
Other issue, the fat springbars are too big for the endlinks. Need to figure this out now

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There is you best solution. Some people cut them to make the spring bars fit but it makes the holes a bit too fragile and they break.

Karbon74 · 29/9/23

C Master said:
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There is you best solution. Some people cut them to make the spring bars fit but it makes the holes a bit too fragile and they break.

frigg...so much for a budget build

Raffles has them too

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Karbon74 · 30/9/23

finally kept it on bracelet with the stock endlinks and spring bars... Natos are not for me. I might buy a nice black leather and definitely the Raffles rivets

One question, I removed all adjustable links. But I only had 3. hence one side is longer. Worse the microadjusts are on the shorter side. Any ideas? I am thinking of inversing the bracelet.

EDIT : I reversed the bracelet. It fits good now

Karbon74 · 1/10/23

ok, I just faced my first serious stump.
The tube thread is damaged. I had not removed it at the start, so it caught a random file cut.

plus I did not glue it strong enough and it just came off

anyway, i put the thing together again but now
1. I lost a movement holder screw

2. I need to change the tube...the watch works but my sense of worksmanship cannot let me leave this like that.

question to the team:
1. any clue where I can buy this screw, what are the specs?
2. raffles or athaya for the tube?

dpd3672 · 1/10/23

Karbon74 said:
ok, I just faced my first serious stump.
The tube thread is damaged. I had not removed it at the start, so it caught a random file cut.

plus I did not glue it strong enough and it just came off

anyway, i put the thing together again but now
1. I lost a movement holder screw
2. I need to change the tube...the watch works but my sense of worksmanship cannot let me leave this like that.

question to the team:
1. any clue where I can buy this screw, what are the specs?
2. raffles or athaya for the tube?

Personally, I'm always losing those little movement holder screws and the tabs, I picked up this and it's a lifesaver:

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Not sure if there are different specs, but these have worked on everything I've tried them on. Well worth the cost to have a bunch of different sizes on hand.
Can't help with the tube, although I suspect you might be able to clean up the threads if it's not too bad. Sometimes that works (at least on other things I've built, non-watch related). Try finding a nut the same size and pitch as the crown and try threading it on from either direction if you can.

Karbon74 · 1/10/23

thanks !!!
I am happy to hear that I am not the only clumsy here

this item does not ship to FR but I found it on AliExpress

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dpd3672 · 1/10/23

Karbon74 said:
thanks !!!
I am happy to hear that I am not the only clumsy here

this item does not ship to FR but I found it on AliExpress

Just found this amazing item on AliExpress. Check it out! US $9.76 40％ Off | 240Pcs 10 Size Watch Movement Casing Clamp Fixing Adapter Securing Screw for ETA 2824 2834 2826 2836 Watch Repair Tool Accessory

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Damn, even cheaper on Ali

Megahz1 · 1/10/23

@Karbon74 If you are ok with not having a 702 crown, then you should check post #56.
Easily found on AE for around €20 and really well made. If you go with Athaya you will need to buy a crown too and honestly I was slightly disappointed with mine, but is the only 702 option atm other than going gen.

Karbon74 · 1/10/23

Megahz1 said:
@Karbon74 If you are ok with not having a 702 crown, then you should check post #56.
Easily found on AE for around €20 and really well made. If you go with Athaya you will need to buy a crown too and honestly I was slightly disappointed with mine, but is the only 702 option atm other than going gen.

@Megahz1

i bought the 24 7030 tube hoping that the stock crown would fit.
I also found a 116610 crown and tube on Ali
I will buy it too.

I dont really mind 1:1 time fidelity. It's my first build. So, I take it as practice.

with the tools and consumables I bought, I could have ordered a nice ready made 5513 which would have been better than mine...but what's the fun in that

Karbon74 · 2/10/23

the tube came off today when I screwed the crown

so this evening I took it out and polished off the raw damaged edges and worked the thread as good as I could.

Then i glued the tube in with hypo cement. I will let it rest until tmrw. Hopefully, it will work out until I get the new tube.

I must admit that I am sorely tempted to buy a new 5513 from Marv and try again...but I don't want to give up either

I bought a 24 7030 from Ali and a 7mm from Raffles. Let's see which one will work out.

matzemedia · 3/10/23

I'am using Loctite 243 to fix the tube to the case.

This week I receipt a 7mm crown from Ali. It is perfect - especialy the high is just 3.6mm . As far as I know this is close to the older 5513 / 5512 cases. Here the link: https://a.aliexpress.com/_Exy8cR1

@Karbon74 may be that helps you. Good luck!

Winni1611 · 3/10/23

Bought crown and tube from Ali too and they are fine.

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