BP Re-Releases 5-Digit Submariners with VR3135

[Zen_der]

Did you receive it yet?

not yet unfortunately

 

[watcher009]

not yet unfortunately

Please let us know when you do. Thanks

 

[xray7]

My wife generally tolerates my watch purchases. Unfortunately for me, she’s got a strong aversion to the tool and dive watches which have “gone for gold”… and I think I’m in love with the 16613LB.

I’ve been resisting for a couple of weeks now, but it scratches a particular summer/no rehaut engraving vintage/not super expensive itch and I’m losing the battle with my resolve. I can probably succeed in resisting until I’ve got the inbound 16610LN back out the door.

I’ll likely be posting my wrist shots of the 16613LB from my new place to sleep - the couch.

Anyway… are there any absolutely “must do” mods on the latest run of these out of BP that I should contemplate as I consider making the couch my permanent home over this?

 

[Hagus]

Right guys, I’ve lost my bezel insert! Is it possible to source a replacement BP one? it’s a 16610LN but if I had a choice I’d probably go for an LV insert to add colour to my watch box!

 

[Pelleknas]

Many of the BPs do still come with SA3186’s. Easily identified by the silver on the red reversing wheels.

Good news is, when that dies you just swap in a VR3186.

Those cases tend to have the much wider chamfers as well.

Hi buddy. I am curious what you mean with the last sentence there. What do you mean with it?

I am the owner of a sa3186 GMT currently that I really like. But it doesn't feel great manual winding, so I am curious if I should later swap to a VR3186 like you suggest.

Thanks

 

[bowtiefanatc]

Hi buddy. I am curious what you mean with the last sentence there. What do you mean with it?

I am the owner of a sa3186 GMT currently that I really like. But it doesn't feel great manual winding, so I am curious if I should later swap to a VR3186 like you suggest.

Thanks

Hi,

You could swap the SA with a VR and it will likely be a nice improvement.

The chamfers on the cases that I had with SA movement were much wider than the case that came with a VR.

Here are some photos.

You can see how much of the angle (chamfer) is visible on one of the cases and how the other is much thinner and “closer” to gen.

 

[bowtiefanatc]

 

[Pelleknas]

I see. Yes my watch has the wider chamfers, unfortunately. Do you know if it is fixable? Maybe can be brushed away a little?

I might swap to a VR3186 later, but first when my SA gives up. It runs really well, just feels like it "pops" a little bit when winding. Like in addition to the normal wind-up resistance there is extra bumps now and then, very subtle.

Doing a movement swap costs like 120€ for the vr3186 and maybe 100€ for the work right? Maybe I should just sell this and get a new bp with VR at that point

 

[bowtiefanatc]

I see. Yes my watch has the wider chamfers, unfortunately. Do you know if it is fixable? Maybe can be brushed away a little?

I might swap to a VR3186 later, but first when my SA gives up. It runs really well, just feels like it "pops" a little bit when winding. Like in addition to the normal wind-up resistance there is extra bumps now and then, very subtle.

Doing a movement swap costs like 120€ for the vr3186 and maybe 100€ for the work right? Maybe I should just sell this and get a new bp with VR at that point

I’m not sure about the work, that will depend on the person. I do my own work unless it’s really complicated.

VR’s are under $100 through AliExpress, that I know for sure.

 

[Eames]

Hey guys. Got a little problem with my bp 16610 that I got recently. The bezel had a lot of wonky play so I decided to pull it off and see if I could reattach it. I did not know that the glass would come off. But the problem is I can’t seem to reattach the bezel back on fully. See the picture.

Please any advise ??? I love the watch and really want to use it and hopefully nothing major is gone here ?? :/

 

[bowtiefanatc]

Remove the insert & wire, firmly hold the bezel to the case and press in the wire. Confirm that it rotates properly. Install insert.

 

[Eames]

Remove the insert & wire, firmly hold the bezel to the case and press in the wire. Confirm that it rotates properly. Install insert.

Thanks but how do I remove the insert ? I would really appreciate all advice available but when I pop the bezel off the glass is also and can’t see how to remove the insert ??

See pics:

 

[bowtiefanatc]

I’m surprised the glass came out when you popped the bezel off.

Pop the glass out carefully, then you should be able to separate the insert from the bezel.

 

[Eames]

I’m surprised the glass came out when you popped the bezel off.

Pop the glass out carefully, then you should be able to separate the insert from the bezel.

Should the glass pop out “of the back” ?

 

[bowtiefanatc]

Should the glass pop out “of the back” ?

It should since the bezel is pressed onto the case.

 

[KushBandit]

Hey guys. Got a little problem with my bp 16610 that I got recently. The bezel had a lot of wonky play so I decided to pull it off and see if I could reattach it. I did not know that the glass would come off. But the problem is I can’t seem to reattach the bezel back on fully. See the picture.

Please any advise ??? I love the watch and really want to use it and hopefully nothing major is gone here ?? :/

Push the crystal out from the front. You'll then put the gasket and crystal back on the case, and press the bezel on.

Remove the insert & wire, firmly hold the bezel to the case and press in the wire. Confirm that it rotates properly. Install insert.

I don't believe these have a wire like the 5 digits. The BP 16610 has a 6 digit style bezel with the ball bearings.

 

[bowtiefanatc]

Push the crystal out from the front. You'll then put the gasket and crystal back on the case, and press the bezel on.


I don't believe these have a wire like the 5 digits. The BP 16610 has a 6 digit style bezel with the ball bearings.

That makes sense. It definitely looked different.

 

[Eames]

Any tips on getting the crystal out ? Can’t seem to be able to push it out - see pics.

 

[Geonor]

Push it out with a crystal press. You will probably need one to get it back together as well.

 

[hollywoodrollie]

Hey guys. Got a little problem with my bp 16610 that I got recently. The bezel had a lot of wonky play so I decided to pull it off and see if I could reattach it. I did not know that the glass would come off. But the problem is I can’t seem to reattach the bezel back on fully. See the picture.

Please any advise ??? I love the watch and really want to use it and hopefully nothing major is gone here ?? :/

Hey man... sorry, just take a few minutes to read my posts and @KJ2020 in this thread. It will save you a lot of frustration.
Basically, you need a crystal press and a special die to press the crystal and the retaining ring back on. I ended up buying a datejust rep bezel from eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/142894860301) and used it as a press die to set the retaining ring. The DJ bezel was a perfect fit after trying a few other options.

It looks like you also smashed the hytrel gasket (which fits inside the bezel) so you'll have to either get a replacement or use fishing line as an alternative.

The first thing you need to do is understand how this whole thing works and what are the bezel assembly parts.

This should help:



You need to do is separate the crystal, the plastic crystal gasket and the metal retaining ring from the bezel. You'll need a crystal press to do that. You then need to refit the crystal and gasket on the case and press the retaining ring to secure it on the case.

Also read these post here:

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