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[MrYesterday]

Is SaturdayKnight back? Seriously. You've made your point, now let Jay enjoy his watch. Is your life that miserable that you feel the need to disparage the pride of a member of another forum? You're getting kind of pathetic. You're not educating, you're berating. Jay stated that it was pieced together, so I really don't see the point in any of this, other than the fact that he was mistaken about the dial, and that's been rectified.

A lot of Pams are "hodge podge" considering people put on 3rd party crystals, CGs, crowns, CBs, and it's pretty lame of you to try to coin a term just to chastise him. It's his money, not yours.

Seriously, someone check this cat's IP, I have a feeling it'll be the same as SK

 

[Bronzy]

wow, I agree with pec, it's easy to say check RG when it's down... there's no proof. Just show us the eyecandy man!

 

[PecMan]

maybe he doesnt have EL camera to take El pictures. he would have to compare jays EL and (his EL ) and after compare it to the gen to c wich one is the best EL .

 

[Bronzy]

You have nice PAM 127 which is not an EL PAM 127.
Thank you verifying that the parts are not "gen" EL PAM 127 parts
So sorry to see that mojojojay spent a lot of money on non genuine EL PAM 127 fiddy parts.
Thank you for verifying the dial, crown guard and case back are not "gen" EL parts.
mojojojay has a nice PAM 127, however it is not an EL PAM 127.
Again, thanks to everyone who has sent me PM's and emails verifying that mojojojay watch is not an EL PAM 127 and is a collection of parts which are not EL.
Seventhly, You have nice PAM 127 which is not an EL PAM 127.

sounds like you have to reassure yourself a lot in these posts.

 

[slimslim]

dudes come on a new poster who is ripping mjj apart. no pics ect.... also to me it's silly to debate ( as no one has made a concrete statement ) the gen'ness of FAKE WATCH PARTS. btw DD the value of any object is what the next person is willing to pay for it. the idea that a guy like goin can't say for sure what a part is or isn't says enough for me. did EL issue serial numbers? can you check with the AD for authenticity? no; there is a hodgepodge of watch dudes that spitball their best guess for the origin of illegal watch parts. i love mjj's fiddy. i want one just like it. please!!!!! pam gods bestow one on me. mjj don't worry this guy needs to chill, if he wants to get along here i feel like this is a poor start. we are all here because we like watches right?? i like yours... if DD posts photos of his alleged fiddy i will like that one too....(maybe )

 

[mojojojay]

Slimslim - DD is from RG with 1500 post and 20 positive feedbacks and some lost when RG crash sometime ago . its not like i want to prove him wrong or anything , i'm asking for how the hell to tell for sure what GEN EL fiddy look like . i've asked him over at RG , and im asking him again here at RWI . SHOW SOME PICTURES OF WHAT YOUR GEN EL FIDDY LOOK LIKE and how is it different from HP . take it apart and show us its a front loading ? i DID and i took pictures of it to show

 

[cloneman]

As for the case... The easiest way is if u can put the mov in and out through the back ; it's not an EL

for stuff like the dial, bezel and cg

u need closeups

the movement at this point is a no brainer because EL or anyone else for that matter , will NEVER EVER look gen no matter what u do to it

 

[slimslim]

word; but he could show more respect.

 

[mojojojay]

As for the case... The easiest way is if u can put the mov in and out through the back ; it's not an EL

for stuff like the dial, bezel and cg

u need closeups

the movement at this point is a no brainer because EL or anyone else for that matter , will NEVER EVER look gen no matter what u do to it

hey buddy , was wondering where you were since the 'topic' about EL fiddy is up and running again . lol anywayz , the pictures i posted for the top loader case , the interior got a latch and the cartel got a movement ring . that shows its a front loader . (correct me if im wrong)

 

[cloneman]

I'm playing catch up with this thread I have been out all day but now I see what's going on

first off DD is a good guy and I see what he's getting at, if 1day jay decides to sell his 127 as an EL and it's not then it's a problem, I see DD trying to avoid a problem further down the line


Now the cg might not be flush because between version 1-3 the cases were a certain way but the v5 was chunkier and as such so was the cg, he might have an EL cg but not the best one

as for the dial let me explain if you were to purchase an EL dial it should run about 300$ UNLUMED , if you paid cheaper the question is, why??

EL cg 150-250
EL case depending on the side profile

bow like as in a boat side profile : more moola
wedge like in side profile : less moola


God I'm tired of typing on my iPhone lol

 

[mojojojay]

paying less mola doesnt mean anything as well buddy it may also mean i got a good deal out of it as no one seems to be selling EL fiddy dial for quite a long time and hence does not know what to price it as (besides you who i know will be selling the whole package once ur gen movements reach you) , i too understand DD seems to be help trying to avoid problems down the line , but calling it out not to be 'gen' EL fiddy and not educating guys here on how to tell if its not EL but a HP one ? my point is , point out to me with pictures showing what is it that shows its a GEN EL and what not from DD . Not replies stating 'wait for RG to be up and i'll show you the links , you understand where i'm coming from ?obviously i too is going franken down the road so information about this will come in handy down the road , or i might decide to abandon franken fiddy and sell it off . i collected and bought EL parts separately as EL cg EL dial , EL case set . and they dont list which Version as they wont know it as well . do me a favour , post some pics of your fiddy cg up and point to me about the bow/wedge like shape will ya ?

I'm playing catch up with this thread I have been out all day but now I see what's going on

first off DD is a good guy and I see what he's getting at, if 1day jay decides to sell his 127 as an EL and it's not then it's a problem, I see DD trying to avoid a problem further down the line


Now the cg might not be flush because between version 1-3 the cases were a certain way but the v5 was chunkier and as such so was the cg, he might have an EL cg but not the best one

as for the dial let me explain if you were to purchase an EL dial it should run about 300$ UNLUMED , if you paid cheaper the question is, why??

EL cg 150-250
EL case depending on the side profile

bow like as in a boat side profile : more moola
wedge like in side profile : less moola


God I'm tired of typing on my iPhone lol

 

[alvinado]

THis eddie lee thing is getting crazy

 

[cloneman]

Look at the side profile of the case, how does it look?

Secondly a person that has an EL dial will get top dollar and won't sell it for 100$, come on u know that

now here's the thing about the cases

EL and honpo were selling these best cases

however the cartel was at one point selling them also , river days I think
now the easiest way to tell is like I said can u put the mov through the back and take out through the back, if u can, sorry, it's a cartel front loader

I'll tell u what when I sent my watch to Katt to mod he tried removing the mov through the back and no go until I told him to pop out the bezel at the notch and voilà. There u go, 100% true front loading EL case , also know that not too many were sold either, so that's why they are so rare and of course expensive

THis eddie lee thing is getting crazy

True bro but it's because there are many that go the shaft and then sell it off as EL/honpo and it's a vicious circle of sell the "fake" EL/honpo

 

[mojojojay]

well , i did try that when i had both case , dial n movement with me , and yes it goes in thru the front and doesnt come out the back . and no i didnt take a video of it ? and as for the dial , EL dial is suppose to be bigger in diameter as compare to cartels so if its a cartel dial , im sure we'll be able to see from the top of the watch around the edges of the dial right ?

Look at the side profile of the case, how does it look?

Secondly a person that has an EL dial will get top dollar and won't sell it for 100$, come on u know that

now here's the thing about the cases

EL and honpo were selling these best cases

however the cartel was at one point selling them also , river days I think
now the easiest way to tell is like I said can u put the mov through the back and take out through the back, if u can, sorry, it's a cartel front loader

I'll tell u what when I sent my watch to Katt to mod he tried removing the mov through the back and no go until I told him to pop out the bezel at the notch and voilà. There u go, 100% true front loading EL case , also know that not too many were sold either, so that's why they are so rare and of course expensive



True bro but it's because there are many that go the shaft and then sell it off as EL/honpo and it's a vicious circle of sell the "fake" EL/honpo

 

[cloneman]

The cut outs are diff and the spacing of the 1950 as well

was the mov attached? And then you tried to remove it? Because if I remember correctly on RG when u bought it , it was in pieces with no dial or a dial with the lswissl smudged, no mov

 

[mojojojay]

i've got 3 case remember , 2 of which is EL , and one came with damage dial with hands and movement attached to the movement in the case , thats no.1 case i tested , i need to open up the CB and unscrew it before it came out the front , in which they nvr drop out from the back . 2nd is on the 'cartel' one i tot it to be EL one it goes in the front and comes out the back . 3rd is the one with a 217 cb .

 

[daytonadragon]

well it is not a bad idea to post pics of ur el. and point all the differences that u are talking about, it doesnt matter if the pics are at rg , becouse u are posting here at rwi. and looks that u are taking ur time to responce every comment and ending saying is not an el. so it would be the rite thing to post the pics and prove what u are talking about . the guy that u are calling out is asking u for that if i had it i would post it rite away!

Mojojojay started a thread on RG about January 2011 or February 2011 asking if his PAM 127 case was an EL PAM 127 case. EL PAM experts at RG posted that mojojojay PAM 127 case was not an EL PAM 127 case. Ever since than mojojojay stopped posting on RG.

Pictures of my PAM 127 are already on RG in the sales thread from May 2010 in which I purchased the watch from a well known and respected modder who is based in Singapore.

 

[Maximos]

cool, i'm sure you have them on your pc so feel free to post them here instead of a forum that's currently out of service. this or quit.

 

[cloneman]

Let me ask u this, which mov was in the EL case, EL's did have a Swiss 6497 in the first versions

 

[daytonadragon]

I'm playing catch up with this thread I have been out all day but now I see what's going on

first off DD is a good guy and I see what he's getting at, if 1day jay decides to sell his 127 as an EL and it's not then it's a problem, I see DD trying to avoid a problem further down the line


Now the cg might not be flush because between version 1-3 the cases were a certain way but the v5 was chunkier and as such so was the cg, he might have an EL cg but not the best one

as for the dial let me explain if you were to purchase an EL dial it should run about 300$ UNLUMED , if you paid cheaper the question is, why??

EL cg 150-250
EL case depending on the side profile

bow like as in a boat side profile : more moola
wedge like in side profile : less moola


God I'm tired of typing on my iPhone lol

Thank you cloneman,

The point I am making is that when mojojojay posted pictures of his PAM 127 cases on RG asking if they were EL PAM 127 cases, the response to his post was his PAM 127 cases were not EL PAM 127 cases.


I would hate to see somebody on another forum whether it is this site or RWGforum site and or the wristcheck site purchase a PAM 127 fiddy which is being sold as an EL PAM 127 fiddy when it is not an EL PAM 127 fiddy.

mojojojay has yet to prove his PAM 127 case is an EL PAM 127 case; the same applies to his PAM 127 dial and crown guard.

How would you feel if you were the person on one of the other forums who was looking to purchase an EL PAM fiddy and you find out the so called EL PAM fiddy you purchased was not an EL PAM 127 fiddy and it was cobbled together using parts that were not EL PAM fiddy parts.