Why I LOVE Goin !

[joegrimm]

When RG comes back on line I suggest you sign up on RG to learn about PAM's.

are you implying that nobody here knows anything about pams?

 

[levelmanroger]

May I suggest the Mods take Goin's name off this thread - particularly since it has nothing to do with him. Were I him, I'd want no connection to this pissing match.

 

[mononcle]

:lolcina: obviously not about these

 

[w@tchlume]

stop attacking Singapore. please.

Keep anything unrelated to the subject matter out. stay in topic, please do not bash my country.

This is a polite request.

 

[Euphoricall78]

This thread should have been closed a long time ago. lol

 

[daytonadragon]

Wealth of information about Pams here on RWI.
No need to promote other sites.

Based on your wealth of information, tell us why the watch owner's parts are EL PAM 127 fiddy parts.

 

[Darthmemnoch]

I still do not see what Singapore has anything to do with whether MMJ has a real (I dont want to say gen) EL or not.

I happened to have read the post in RG on MMJ's EL cases, if I recall MMJ was the one who came clean and declared that what he thought was an EL was in fact not when he was advised of the same by a respected member in RG. The said member then posted some pictures of what an EL case should look like and shared some tips on identifying an EL case. Based on the guidance in those tips and pictures, MMJ's other two cases were EL cases.

As I mentioned in my other thread, in the rep world, provenance does not exist... There is nothing better to identify what make a watch is other than to scrutinise the physical characteristics of the watch itself.

If the valued characteristics of an EL case is that it is front loading, has a notch to allow the bezel and crystal to be popped off, and a cut out to support the movement when loaded in front, then a watch with these characteristics would be either an EL case or one that has the same valued characteristics....

 

[daytonadragon]

May I suggest the Mods take Goin's name off this thread - particularly since it has nothing to do with him. Were I him, I'd want no connection to this pissing match.

Is it only a matter of time the watch will be referred to as a goin6633 lumed EL PAM 127 fiddy?

When I first saw this thread, I was led to believe it was for a PAM watch that was lumed by goin6633.

Today, I am wearing my PAM243 sub which was lumed by goin6633 with a TAKA DW and Simona strap. Modders like goin6633 in South East Asia do a great job for luming PAM's.

I still do not see what Singapore has anything to do with whether MMJ has a real (I dont want to say gen) EL or not.

I happened to have read the post in RG on MMJ's EL cases, if I recall MMJ was the one who came clean and declared that what he thought was an EL was in fact not when he was advised of the same by a respected member in RG. The said member then posted some pictures of what an EL case should look like and shared some tips on identifying an EL case. Based on the guidance in those tips and pictures, MMJ's other two cases were EL cases.

As I mentioned in my other thread, in the rep world, provenance does not exist... There is nothing better to identify what make a watch is other than to scrutinise the physical characteristics of the watch itself.

If the valued characteristics of an EL case is that it is front loading, has a notch to allow the bezel and crystal to be popped off, and a cut out to support the movement when loaded in front, then a watch with these characteristics would be either an EL case or one that has the same valued characteristics....

It was ascertained on RG that mojojojay cases are front loading cartel cases, mojojojay needs to take his watch to to RG member spinmaster who is based in Singapore and have Spinmaster check to see if the movement can come out through the back of the case. mojojojay has yet to post a video and or have somebody ascertain if the movement can come out the back of the case he has which he claims is EL PAM 127 fiddy.

If goin6633 assembled the watch for mojojojay, goin6633 can ascertain when he assembled the watch if the movement was able to come out of the back of the case.

This is very simple to solve, all goin6633 and or mojojojay have to do is post a video of the movement being removed from the back of the case. When mojojojay attempted to do this when he was still posting on RG he was able to do this with a movement and it was subsequently proven beyond a reason of doubt that 2 of his PAM 127 fiddy cases are not EL PAM 127 fiddy cases.

i told him not to base the fact that he has the 581 caseback as at the time the cartels front loading case had that serial as well.

You profess to be an expert on rep wartches, enlighten us how you tell the differences between BK WM9 subs and noobmariner subs.

 

[PecMan]

well dragon, for what i have been reading, u say jays pam is not an EL becouse when he posted pictures at rg the EXPERTS told him no ,it is not. but u say u do have an EL couse u got the watch from a superstar member that would never sell something called EL if he wasnt sure it was not.
at the end. i perfectly understand that u cant tell the ******* difference and u are just repeating what u saw (what the experts said on rg) so lets say the same watch , exactly the same watch that jay has would be for sale by ur superstar member, then u woulndt have a doubt about it being EL. just becouse of the seller. it doesnt make u a pam expert sir. lets say u want to know about how to pleasure a girl, i will tell u exactly , step by step how to do it couse im an expert in that subjet i will post pictures about it, show u exactly where , how deep , what position ur fingers have to be and while then where ur other hand has to be and lets not forget the mouth. anyways since u are a pam expert im expecting the same from u. or u need to read some stuff at rg to remember something about pam?????????? couse i dont need to bring my tantra book to tell u about pussy .

ohh sorry i forgot , nice avatar euphorical

 

[daytonadragon]

are you implying that nobody here knows anything about pams?

Nope, I am implying nobody on RWI has been able to ascertain and prove to us beyond a reason of doubt that mojojojay has 3 EL PAM 127 fiddy cases and 2 EL PAM 127 fiddy dials.

 

[Darthmemnoch]

Quick clarification. I did not at any time profess to be a submariner expert... To be honest, when I compared by BK TWB-WM9 sub with my friend's gen, I could not tell the difference (I couldnt even see the crown height)

Well, the watch's built. If Goin says that the movement could not come out of the back, I'll trust him for that... no need for videos.... he has earned that trust to the extent that people are willing to send him their watches and watch parts ranging from a couple of hundred to thousands of dollars to fix...

Is it only a matter of time the watch will be referred to as a goin6633 lumed EL PAM 127 fiddy?

When I first saw this thread, I was led to believe it was for a PAM watch that was lumed by goin6633.

Today, I am wearing my PAM243 sub which was lumed by goin6633 with a TAKA DW and Simona strap. Modders like goin6633 in South East Asia do a great job for luming PAM's.



It was ascertained on RG that mojojojay cases are front loading cartel cases, mojojojay needs to take his watch to to RG member spinmaster who is based in Singapore and have Spinmaster check to see if the movement can come out through the back of the case. mojojojay has yet to post a video and or have somebody ascertain if the movement can come out the back of the case he has which he claims is EL PAM 127 fiddy.

If goin6633 assembled the watch for mojojojay, goin6633 can ascertain when he assembled the watch if the movement was able to come out of the back of the case.

This is very simple to solve, all goin6633 and or mojojojay have to do is post a video of the movement being removed from the back of the case. When mojojojay attempted to do this when he was still posting on RG he was able to do this with a movement and it was subsequently proven beyond a reason of doubt that 2 of his PAM 127 fiddy cases are not EL PAM 127 fiddy cases.

i told him not to base the fact that he has the 581 caseback as at the time the cartels front loading case had that serial as well.

You profess to be an expert on rep wartches, enlighten us how you tell the differences between BK WM9 subs and noobmariner subs.

 

[joegrimm]

Nope, I am implying nobody on RWI has been able to ascertain and prove to us beyond a reason of doubt that mojojojay has 3 EL PAM 127 fiddy cases and 2 EL PAM 127 fiddy dials.

and you havent been able to prove that he doesnt other then keep mentioning that people are pm'ing you to tell you its not EL, or that you make references to other forum posts about what people say about this and that..

he hasnt posted a video about the front loading....but you havent posted any pictures of your "GEN" EL fiddy either.. maybe you should do a comparison and enlighten all of us with the wealth of information that you got from another forum.

 

[Darthmemnoch]

FYI, Spin is on RWI too...

Nope, I am implying nobody on RWI has been able to ascertain and prove to us beyond a reason of doubt that mojojojay has 3 EL PAM 127 fiddy cases and 2 EL PAM 127 fiddy dials.

I don't believe that he (DD) has an EL either...but I don't really care...

and you havent been able to prove that he doesnt other then keep mentioning that people are pm'ing you to tell you its not EL, or that you make references to other forum posts about what people say about this and that..

he hasnt posted a video about the front loading....but you havent posted any pictures of your "GEN" EL fiddy either.. maybe you should do a comparison and enlighten all of us with the wealth of information that you got from another forum.

 

[daytonadragon]

and you havent been able to prove that he doesnt other then keep mentioning that people are pm'ing you to tell you its not EL, or that you make references to other forum posts about what people say about this and that..

he hasnt posted a video about the front loading....but you havent posted any pictures of your "GEN" EL fiddy either.. maybe you should do a comparison and enlighten all of us with the wealth of information that you got from another forum.

Why should I go through the hassle of posting photos of my EL PAM 127 fiddy and EL PAM 217 fiddy when there are already plenty pictures of EL PAM 127 and 217 fiddys on RWI. All you have to do is search "EL PAM 127" on RWI and you should be able to find many many posts and threads which have EL PAM 127 and EL PAM 217 fiddy pictures which were ascertained and verified by the PAM experts on RWI.

 

[avenger007]

Ok, this one is going around and around in circles. Nothing to see here.