VS drops 40mm Rolex Explorer w/ VS3230

[Watchpan]

Looks like CLEAN also has this 40 mm Explorer also. I really cant figure out witch one is better right now the VSF or CLEAN version of this. Anyone have some insight? Appreciate any help, thanks!

 

[Usernametaken]

Can’t beat vs movement

 

[Robsen]

Can’t beat vs movement

100% agree and their crystal are very clear, my 40 vsf from Sead. I know the crown might be too small but who the hell is going to know on wrist unless you take it off and compare to a gen

 

[Watchpan]

100% agree and their crystal are very clear, my 40 vsf from Sead. I know the crown might be too small but who the hell is going to know on wrist unless you take it off and compare to a gen

Thanks for the pic! The watch looks great. Other then the crown have you joticed anythibg else you would change?

 

[Reto]

How much smaller is the crown compared to Gen?

 

[bertieng]

The gen uses the 600 crown?

 

[dogwood]

My approved QC from @CTime ... looking forward to putting this on simple brown leather or nubuck and having a sneaky daily.

 

[Watchpan]

Has anyone compared this VSF to a GEN? Would love to see comparison photos.

 

[Watchpan]

My approved QC from @CTime ... looking forward to putting this on simple brown leather or nubuck and having a sneaky daily.

Is this a VSF? The Crown doesnt look small in the photos. Does anyone else think so? Am I missing something? Thanks!

 

[dogwood]

Is this a VSF? The Crown doesnt look small in the photos. Does anyone else think so? Am I missing something? Thanks!

Yes, the pictures I posted were my approved QC of a VSF 40mm explore 1.

 

[Therion666]

@Watchpan It's a VSF. It does look small, because it is. You are missing a big enough crown, this one is too small. But why worry, if it looks big enough for you? You won't be flashing it on IG, will you?
It's not that obvious IRL, don't worry about it

 

[bertieng]

@Watchpan It's a VSF. It does look small, because it is. You are missing a big enough crown, this one is too small. But why worry, if it looks big enough for you? You won't be flashing it on IG, will you?
It's not that obvious IRL, don't worry about it

Which crown model does the gen use? 24-604?

 

[hear_watch]

Hi, I've been following this discussion. I'm about to buy a Clean 39mm, however the VSF 40mm has put that on hold. What I am most interested in is the "premium" experience - that intangible quality of holding a precision piece with the feel of winding, movement accuracy/stability, bracelet and all the other small details.

Viewed in this way - which is the consensus? VSF 40 or Clean 39? And If not the VSF....how long before they get their act together do you think..?

 

[Robsen]

Both VSF and Clean have their act together with the explorer 1, I can assure you , I’ve had both Clean 39 and VSf 40, kept 40mm vsf one as preferred the larger size (this was before clean released 40mm). Like with all reps there are minor issues here and there, if you want a flawless watch buy a genuine one.
Any size (36/39/40mm) of either clean or vsf are amongst some of the best watches you can get. I view my vsf 40mm as the best watch I have/ had in recent months it’s that good, all are tbf.
Just pick the one you want and enjoy it

 

[hear_watch]

Both VSF and Clean have their act together with the explorer 1, I can assure you , I’ve had both Clean 39 and VSf 40, kept 40mm vsf one as preferred the larger size (this was before clean released 40mm). Like with all reps there are minor issues here and there, if you want a flawless watch buy a genuine one.
Any size (36/39/40mm) of either clean or vsf are amongst some of the best watches you can get. I view my vsf 40mm as the best watch I have/ had in recent months it’s that good, all are tbf.
Just pick the one you want and enjoy it

I see. Thank you. As you can tell I am new to all of this Regarding the movement in particular...what would I need to do to get one of these up to COSC levels of accuracy? I am willing to send this to a rep friendly local watchmaker

 

[Robsen]

You could send to a watchmaker who works on Reps to have a full service, but unless there are issues, ie running very slow/fast or bad cosmetic issue that needs fixing then it might be a waste of money imo. My explorer is gaining 3 secs per 24hrs, I’m very happy with that and it’s not been serviced.
I have never had a watch serviced but I know some people like to have their watches serviced. Everyone is different.

 

[Reaps]

I see. Thank you. As you can tell I am new to all of this Regarding the movement in particular...what would I need to do to get one of these up to COSC levels of accuracy? I am willing to send this to a rep friendly local watchmaker

COSC accuracy? lol don't believe the rep lies. It's a replica movement. Maybe somebody gets lucky and gets a movement that can fall into COSC but rep movement is rep movement. If you want "accuracy" in a watch, don't buy a replica - stick to your gens and quartz.

Even with a full service on a rep movement - it will not guarantee anything about accuracy.

 

[Therion666]

Regulating a rep movement takes my watchsmith 5 minutes tops. Most of my VS movements ran very accurately OOTB, but were made even more accurate with a little help of a timegrapher, a screwdriver and a couple of drops of oil. But as @Reaps has said - go TC/HAQ or GPS/atomic clock assisted quartz if you need your watch to be extremely accurate.

 

[hear_watch]

Right, we're definitely not talking HAQ levels

I'm coming from an NH35 where I was getting +15s/day and that bothered me. +5 would be really good. So we cannot make any definitive statements about "average quality" between the two movements? Or is the variance so great that it's meaningless to demand the VS, on the off-chance it comes in better shape?

 

[Therion666]

I don't think that any of my VS movements ever ran over 5s/d, they were all very solid. They also have a very good PR, don't have loud rotors and have very smooth handwinding. Just get one, you're overthinking it, trust me

Did Clean actually release the 40mm version? I haven't noticed any mentions of it?