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Ruski91

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Have you seen the 41sub yet?

Do you have some images illustrating the black hole effect so I can pass to the makers?

I was referring to pretty much all rolex crystals in general. as for the 41, i am sure we will be able to see more pics once people start getting their hands on them and posting pictures, for now all you see is dealer photos which do not really show the difference. However, you can show them all this thread: https://forum.replica-watch.info/forum/rolex-tudor-replicas/278783-explanation-of-black-hole-effect

It has a ton of great photos showing the difference.
 

Ruski91

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Yes and they also had a bunch of the gen 116610 as well but they still got it wrong. So I need to tell them how exactly they have to make the crystal like.

And the gen 41sub doesnt have AR on the cylcops anymore.

Really? I did not see this written anywhere. Do you have a link for this info?
 

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I was referring to pretty much all rolex crystals in general. as for the 41, i am sure we will be able to see more pics once people start getting their hands on them and posting pictures, for now all you see is dealer photos which do not really show the difference. However, you can show them all this thread: https://forum.replica-watch.info/forum/rolex-tudor-replicas/278783-explanation-of-black-hole-effect

It has a ton of great photos showing the difference.

I got you now.

As for the 41sub, I will borrow the watch from the ARF and see it by myself.
 
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Really? I did not see this written anywhere. Do you have a link for this info?

What info? No AR on cyclops? I doubt Rolex would describe their crystal as "Sapphire crystal with ther absense of anti glare coating".

AR told me the cyclops doesnt have any AR coating, but I will see by myself when I have it.
 

Ruski91

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What info? No AR on cyclops? I doubt Rolex would describe their crystal as "Sapphire crystal with ther absense of anti glare coating".

AR told me the cyclops doesnt have any AR coating, but I will see by myself when I have it.

Lol, attention world, our watches are even more basic now. But dont worry they will cost more. Haha
 

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Yes and they also had a bunch of the gen 116610 as well but they still got it wrong. So I need to tell them how exactly they have to make the crystal like.

And the gen 41sub doesnt have AR on the cylcops anymore.

Dear Angus, if they, with a gen in hand, in ten years have not been able to put a good crystal with a good Ar and good black hole on the cyclops, why would they now be able to create a good black hole effect by giving it a photo of a gen? come on, mate, let's not fool ourselves. the truth is that as long as no factory will put a good crystal with a good black hole effect Arf has no interest in doing this. in fact, as you wrote above, the new sub Arf v.4 will have a vr movement, because obviously ZZf is taking away a large slice of the market with its beautiful excellent ootb subs. when ZZf or other strong competitor will put a crystal with a good black hole then Arf will do it too. instead, in the old sub 16610, where Arf has no rival, Arf will continue to put that shit of Sh movement, as people buy it anyway. Same goes for the Datejust (although the new Vrf Dj41 seem very well made and, therefore, I think they will take away a good slice of the market from Arf).
 
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Yeah I cant stop thinking Rolex is intentionally making their watches easier to replicate.

Remember, Rolex and Rep factories are one and the same (according to my earlier conspiracy.) That essentially makes everyone who liked your first post a Rolex employee ? Looking forward to the bonus :)
 

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Dear Angus, if they, with a gen in hand, in ten years have not been able to put a good crystal with a good Ar and good black hole on the cyclops, why would they now be able to create a good black hole effect by giving it a photo of a gen? come on, mate, let's not fool ourselves. the truth is that as long as no factory will put a good crystal with a good black hole effect Arf has no interest in doing this. in fact, as you wrote above, the new sub Arf v.4 will have a vr movement, because obviously ZZf is taking away a large slice of the market with its beautiful excellent ootb subs. when ZZf or other strong competitor will put a crystal with a good black hole then Arf will do it too. instead, in the old sub 16610, where Arf has no rival, Arf will continue to put that shit of Sh movement, as people buy it anyway. Same goes for the Datejust (although the new Vrf Dj41 seem very well made and, therefore, I think they will take away a good slice of the market from Arf).

They wouldnt but I am trying to make them will.
 
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What info? No AR on cyclops? I doubt Rolex would describe their crystal as "Sapphire crystal with ther absense of anti glare coating".

AR told me the cyclops doesnt have any AR coating, but I will see by myself when I have it.

I saw several YT videos showing the new Rollies and they looked like having an AR coating.

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To do what? the Ar on the cyclops or to put a vr movement in other models as well, in addition to the sub v.4?

They do AR their cyclops, I am just trying to tell them about the black hole effect thing.

They will update others with the VR movemoment but they will update the SUB first and the others later since they still have a lot of SH3135 with them.
 

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Since the dial is now black so the "black" could be the dial color, need to see the gen, will get it from ARF in a couple of days

Angus, beyond the cyclops black hole, gen crystals have an outline or frosting ring around the cyclops for a halo effect.

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Guys lets not confuse Angus here. Black hole is black hole and he knows what it is, the point is that factories didnt make it so far. He just have to tell them to make it right thats all
 
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