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The 1016: The Under Appreciated Thread

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I was in Dubai last week.
Gen and reps galore everywhere. Modern Subs, Hublot, PP, AP, you name it.
Even the Customs Officer had a two tone Date Just (looked fake)

However, I caught several fascinated stares at my 1016 and 5513 reps (at distance). You could see in the look that it was admiration not scrutiny…not bad for watches worth less than 400€ parts and work
 

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“If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9 then you would have a key to the universe” - Nikola Tesla believed the numbers 3, 6, and 9 held the key to understanding the universe, viewing them as a code for unlocking its secrets.



This fascination with these numbers is mirrored in the design of the Rolex Explorer, which features numerals at the 3, 6, and 9 o'clock positions. While Tesla's obsession with these numbers remains a mystery, Rolex's use of them on their iconic dials is to enhance readability (and look fantastic!).
 

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More info on this? Is it a rep?
 
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The following may be of interest for new builders. If you have the time (and inclination) please check my facts, especially regarding the engravings, as I have not ventured into this (and this will be the most costly element of these builds) :cool:


The "engraving info" on 6610 is not correct.

Since the 6610 was only produced for a few years, it seems like Rolex was kind of discovering things for themselves, influencing how they'd proceed later with the 1016 model. The different years, have different engraving practices.

1957 models and earlier, do not have "REGISTERED DESIGN", this was only introduced in 1958, as seen on below example:




A LOT of new posts have been made in this thread... I simply can't follow. Too much is posted, and I don't have enough time unfortunately.
I do like the effort you all put into this thread.

Its unfortunate that so much information is "lost" because its posted somewhere 250 pages deep... At this point the Explorer model deserves its own sub-board with sub-sections regarding "Vintage explorer Wiki" section, with informative threads, "Vintage explorer show and tell" with completed builds and their stories, "Vintage explorer build logs" for those wanting to illustrate their build progress... etc.
But that's just my opinion.
 

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The "engraving info" on 6610 is not correct.

Since the 6610 was only produced for a few years, it seems like Rolex was kind of discovering things for themselves, influencing how they'd proceed later with the 1016 model. The different years, have different engraving practices.

1957 models and earlier, do not have "REGISTERED DESIGN", this was only introduced in 1958, as seen on below example:




A LOT of new posts have been made in this thread... I simply can't follow. Too much is posted, and I don't have enough time unfortunately.
I do like the effort you all put into this thread.

Its unfortunate that so much information is "lost" because its posted somewhere 250 pages deep... At this point the Explorer model deserves its own sub-board with sub-sections regarding "Vintage explorer Wiki" section, with informative threads, "Vintage explorer show and tell" with completed builds and their stories, "Vintage explorer build logs" for those wanting to illustrate their build progress... etc.
But that's just my opinion.
Thanks for this information - I did not know about the 1958 introduction of registered design, so this is now added to my knowledge base 🙏

I had based my input on a 1958 6610 (https://www.watchpool24.com/en/30735094/rolex-explorer-6610-box-and-papers), so this tallies with your comment.

I second the idea of a 1016 sub-board based on the astounding input we have been seeing in this thread, and would be willing to help in the donkey work of transferring posts to relevant subsections - I think this would be an amazing resource!
 
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Thanks for this information - I did not know about the 1958 introduction of registered design, so this is now added to my knowledge base 🙏

I had based my input on a 1958 6610 (https://www.watchpool24.com/en/30735094/rolex-explorer-6610-box-and-papers), so this tallies with your comment.

I second the idea of a 1016 sub-board based on the astounding input we have been seeing in this thread, and would be willing to help in the donkey work of transferring posts to relevant subsections - I think this would be an amazing resource!
It would indeed! It would cause less repeated questions, of whom the answer had been provided years ago somewhere among the 270+ pages of content. Would make finding things much more easy, and updating and maintaining accurate information a breeze (for example when a vendor releases new hands, with different dimensions, the post can be edited).
I remember a post about a comparison of (almost all) the hands available. One of our members went the extra length to buy all of them and measure them in length, width, hole size... but I have no clue where it's at, somewhere at page 40 maybe. And I only know this because I remember its existence. There's probably a ton of information in here that I either don't know or can't remember, and thus wont find, it's literally lost somewhere in the pile.

I encourage you or anyone here to reach out to the upper echelons regarding this subject. I'm not sure who would be the appropriate contact for such proposal. Lets not limit the sub to 1016's only though :)
 
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It would indeed! It would cause less repeated questions, of whom the answer had been provided years ago somewhere among the 270+ pages of content. Would make finding things much more easy, and updating and maintaining accurate information a breeze (for example when a vendor releases new hands, with different dimensions, the post can be edited).
I remember a post about a comparison of (almost all) the hands available. One of our members went the extra length to buy all of them and measure them in length, width, hole size... but I have no clue where it's at, somewhere at page 40 maybe. And I only know this because I remember its existence. There's probably a ton of information in here that I either don't know or can't remember, and thus wont find, it's literally lost somewhere in the pile.

I encourage you or anyone here to reach out to the upper echelons regarding this subject. I'm not sure who would be the appropriate contact for such proposal. Lets not limit the sub to 1016's only though :)
Well... we could go straight to the top.... @trailboss99 are we delusional, or could the proposal put forward in https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/the-1016-the-under-appreciated-thread.8523377/post-11938594 be realized? If so, who should we talk to?
 
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The "engraving info" on 6610 is not correct.

Since the 6610 was only produced for a few years, it seems like Rolex was kind of discovering things for themselves, influencing how they'd proceed later with the 1016 model. The different years, have different engraving practices.

1957 models and earlier, do not have "REGISTERED DESIGN", this was only introduced in 1958, as seen on below example:




A LOT of new posts have been made in this thread... I simply can't follow. Too much is posted, and I don't have enough time unfortunately.
I do like the effort you all put into this thread.

Its unfortunate that so much information is "lost" because its posted somewhere 250 pages deep... At this point the Explorer model deserves its own sub-board with sub-sections regarding "Vintage explorer Wiki" section, with informative threads, "Vintage explorer show and tell" with completed builds and their stories, "Vintage explorer build logs" for those wanting to illustrate their build progress... etc.
But that's just my opinion.
There's also lots of "how to" info and stuff that's good across many models of vintage watches. For instance, lume or dial aging techniques, case shaping, dial fonts, etc.

Critics would want to know how the wiki would get organized though. I agree with you. Just wanted to reinforce your points of relevant subsections (and properly separated).
 
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What a cool magazine. I need to find one for the GMT Master!

Funny to hear it's in Japanese posted on FB Hong Kong too. Reminded me of "all those Spanish people that speak Mexican." Heard that too many times.