The 1016: The Under Appreciated Thread

[369mafia]

Thanks! Also @Winni1611 thanks for the information, I will go for the NH38. In a rush I ordered the NH35.. So will have to use that for another project.

@369mafia, oh my.. that gets me exciting! Thanks for the closeups. I have the 5513 currently, but I'm going to sell that because I find the dials "too flat" (just a taste preference).

May I ask how you aged the dial? I agree with you that it needs aging.. I've looked at photos from gens, and they are all heavily damaged and worn.

I used a dry brush modeling weathering paint The one pictured is the best option for this dial the soot, mud and snow. lightly dab on the paint and then brush it off to create and aged look on the high points of the dial surface and lume. quite easy .



I do plan on seeing what is possible with an air brush and to see what I can do with that and will share results.

 

[altayd9]

Starting a 1016 build soon with a raffles case and I wanted to ask if there are any tips for reshaping the case? Previously I reshaped a 6538 case with a circular diamond pad but it was too big to see what I was doing accurately and was a little heavy on the chamfer. I don't need to do that for the explorer but I got some finer attachments for the Dremel, 240 and 600-grit sanding wheels since the sanding wheel I had was pretty rough on the metal.

Would thinning the lugs with 240 and finishing it off with 600 be a good option? I also know the sides of the raffles datejust cases are usually slightly curved on the sides so I'm unsure if its difficult to maintain that when thinning.

 

[altayd9]

Also trying to age the lume to look similar to this:


I've been experimenting with the raffles 6538 dial, soaking in coffee and tea didn't change the color of the lume plots. I have watercolor that comes pretty close to the look I want, it sticks to circular lume plots, just need to clean up the area around, although it didn't want to stick to the rectangular lume plots very well. The only method I haven't tried is baking, I might try baking it in coffee ground to see how it works.

 

[1016_idiot_savant]

Enjoying the build in its current state:

 

[1016_idiot_savant]

Who says 1016 casebacks are boring...

Bundeswehr (German military) 1016 ca. 1976 for flight navigators (99 pieces?)
"The 1016 Explorer may have been made in fairly large numbers but very few appear to have been made specifically for the German Army – or any other country's army for that matter! The serial number 6645 on the case cover is the NATO reference and -12 is Germany's country code. The remaining numbers (I assume) refer to the particular ‘section/regiment' of the German army that the watch was assigned to. At least one other Explorer with the same case back engraving is known to exist – but precious few others are known."



1968/9 Trans-Artic Expedition for navigation to North Pole
Presented by Sir Wally Herbert to Allan Gill.

 

[369mafia]

 

[choate]

You are all a bunch of dirty rotten enablers....

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[Iceballer]

You are all a bunch of dirty rotten enablers....

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Hahahaha same here! I didn’t like the model at first, but now I want to build them all!

Do you guys reshape Raffles’ cases at all or just leave it like that?

 

[Winni1611]

You have to reshape the curves of the lugs especially.

 

[1016 lover]

 

[369mafia]

Received an email this morning from Raffles.

His batch of of gilt gloss 6610 dials is now ready and available. They look pretty good.

If you have been wanting to add a 6610 to your collection now is your chance.

They are not on his site yet but you can probably email him if you wish to order.

I will be getting one in a few and will do a hands on review.

 

[909090909]

Do you guys reshape Raffles’ cases at all or just leave it like that?

I just leave them as-is, because I can’t tell the difference and I’m honestly trying not to get to a place where I can tell the difference

 

[Iceballer]

I just leave them as-is, because I can’t tell the difference and I’m honestly trying not to get to a place where I can tell the difference

Yeah.. kind of a rabbithole you do and don't want to go in.

I might order another case from Raffles and just have fun with it and make it smaller. See if I like the process tho

 

[johnchpark]

I wanted to keep my raffles case as is for my second build. But I couldn’t overcome the temptation to reshape it last night.
Did it with just a flat metal file and then polish.

 

[Iceballer]

I wanted to keep my raffles case as is for my second build. But I couldn’t overcome the temptation to reshape it last night.
Did it with just a flat metal file and then polish.

Thank you, this is some good reference for me! If you have the time, can you also take a photo of the sides?

Just got my stuff from Raffles and I'm in love with the honeycomb dial, especially for this money! Hope I have time tonight to assemble the watch.

 

[Iceballer]

I got this far! Glued the dial to the movement (hypo cement).

1. The second hand is loose and is running really slowly and just goes where the gravity goes. It's a NH36 movement, so if someone has any tips?
2. Just need to cut off the stem and place the bracelet and I'm done for the first version/watch!

 

[1016_idiot_savant]

I got this far! Glued the dial to the movement (hypo cement).

1. The second hand is loose and is running really slowly and just goes where the gravity goes. It's a NH36 movement, so if someone has any tips?
2. Just need to cut off the stem and place the bracelet and I'm done for the first version/watch!

Assuming you received ETA hands from Raffles, the hour and minute hands will fit the NH series, but the seconds hand will not (too large). You can try crimping the seconds hand tube very lightly with needle-nosed pliers until it fits.

 

[Iceballer]

Assuming you received ETA hands from Raffles, the hour and minute hands will fit the NH series, but the seconds hand will not (too large). You can try crimping the seconds hand tube very lightly with needle-nosed pliers until it fits.

Thanks so much, that was an easy fix! I finished my first watch thanks to all the help and information here:

Next steps is to think how to age this one (going for the Tamiya kit posted above for the dial), but the bracelet and case need to get their 'newlyness' removed also.

 

[1016_idiot_savant]

Thanks so much, that was an easy fix! I finished my first watch thanks to all the help and information here:

Next steps is to think how to age this one (going for the Tamiya kit posted above for the dial), but the bracelet and case need to get their 'newlyness' removed also.

That looks incredible as it is - now comes the enjoyable part of those tiny tweaks that only you and a handful of others will ever notice

 

[Iceballer]

Thank you! Already have another crown in my cart from Raffles. Probably end up with a WSO bezel, another crystal, another clasp and slimming the lugs haha.