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The 1016: The Under Appreciated Thread

lexwill

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It's this one:
I just found this on AliExpress:
24,59€ | 36mm Watch Case Easy to Use Practical Watch Accessories for NH36 Movement

Not sure if it's really worth the try - on the other hand it's cheap. Height with acrylic is 13.3mm.
Caseback is big, maybe another caseback can be used. The part of the rehaut where the crystal sits is very tiny. And you have to find an other crystal. Diameter is 29,0 mm

Some more pics













And found this kind of silicone ring on the outside of the rehaut. Glue? No clue!

Awesome. Thank you!
 

automatico

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5/10/11
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"The part of the rehaut where the crystal sits is very tiny. And you have to find another crystal. Diameter is 29,0 mm."

Just now measured two genuine Rlx cases, 16200 (R serial) and 16234 (E serial). They are very low mileage (with spring bar holes) and have been stored for about 30 years. Both have crystal necks rising 1.02mm to 1.03mm above the case deck with crystal necks measuring 29.48mm to 29.49mm OD where the crystal gasket (sapphire) or crystal skirt (acrylic) mounts.

An oem spec sapphire crystal and gasket or 25-135C acrylic crystal will fit these cases with proper bezels. A 25-22 1016 crystal will also fit them but the ID of the bezel must be cut to fit the thicker crystal skirt.
They make excellent 1016 or DJ project cases (high WR) and I machined the 16220 case to accept an ETA 2836, 2846, 2789 etc. in 1994 or 1995.
The modified case will accept a Rlx 3035, ETA 2836 etc. to make a DJ with either sapphire or acrylic crystal. I had a 3035 with a 'Buckley' type dial in this case for a while back then but sold the movement soon after putting it together.

Catch 22...since the dial seat has been machined deeper into the case making the dial mount higher in the case...when using a dial with applied markers, the second hand may rub the crystal when using a sapphire crystal (this is the reason for the 'Buckley' dial). This is not a problem when using an ETA 2836, 2846, 2789 etc. with acrylic crystal.

There is always more than one catch...
Genuine Rlx 162xx cases are high $$ now and many of the cases for sale are ratty, some ground and buffed to the max, and others rotted out by corrosion.

Typos are free.
 

TheLost

Getting To Know The Place
2/5/25
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I replaced the sapphire crystal on my Raffles case with a generic Tropic #25-22 acrylic. It was easier than I expected..

* soaked in boiling water for a few minutes.. The crystal & bezel pushed right out.
* Dremmed/sanded ID of the bezel to 30.8mm
* pushed the crystal onto the inner case bezel, slid the newly widened outer bezel over the crystal.
* Cheap crystal press to push everything in nice and tight.
Exactly as stated multipule times in this thread :)





I also gave up on UV aging dials and went with a simple black tea die job. (brew i nice glass of tea.. drip/paint tea water on dial.. put in sun until dry.. drink left over tea... use q-tipe to lightly rub off/lighten spots you don't like)



Still need to hit the case a few times with a bag of rocks.. but for now the Albino is done.
 

TheLost

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This is a great article debunking the 'myth' of the Space Dweller.. Fun fact, there are no known 'Space Dwellers' existing BEFORE 2002. There is great evidence that all 'Space Dwellers' are Frankenwatchs :)

 

oldtools

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also an unrelated question. wasnt there some case manufracturer by the name of Dr. vintage or something? cant find him

@drvintage
 

Jdaced30

Getting To Know The Place
20/12/24
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It's this one:
I just found this on AliExpress:
24,59€ | 36mm Watch Case Easy to Use Practical Watch Accessories for NH36 Movement

Not sure if it's really worth the try - on the other hand it's cheap. Height with acrylic is 13.3mm.
Caseback is big, maybe another caseback can be used. The part of the rehaut where the crystal sits is very tiny. And you have to find an other crystal. Diameter is 29,0 mm

Some more pics













And found this kind of silicone ring on the outside of the rehaut. Glue? No clue!

Did you manage to find a crystal that actually fits? I’m using the same case for a Datejust build and I am having a hard time finding a crystal with an ID of 29 mm. I’m thinking about using a crystal gasket which I set around the rehaut and then using a 29.5mm crystal.
 

TheLost

Getting To Know The Place
2/5/25
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Did you manage to find a crystal that actually fits? I’m using the same case for a Datejust build and I am having a hard time finding a crystal with an ID of 29 mm. I’m thinking about using a crystal gasket which I set around the rehaut and then using a 29.5mm crystal.

There are a few Crystals with a 29mm (25-116, 25-118.. etc). The 25-118 will have a higher dome.. and you may have to dremel out your bezel to fit.

For simplicity.. I just went Raffles case with a 25-135 crystal on my 160x0 datejust. (I did order a few of the cases you are talking about to play with)
 

Jdaced30

Getting To Know The Place
20/12/24
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There are a few Crystals with a 29mm (25-116, 25-118.. etc). The 25-118 will have a higher dome.. and you may have to dremel out your bezel to fit.

For simplicity.. I just went Raffles case with a 25-135 crystal on my 160x0 datejust. (I did order a few of the cases you are talking about to play with)
The 25-118 has an ID of 29.4mm, which wouldn’t fit the case. I already tried that. It could fit, if you place an extra gasket around the outside of the rehaut. Not sure if it looks decent…
 

HSV726

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If I have understood correctly (apologies if not) but if the OD of the rehaut is too small could you increase it by adding heatproof tape?you essentially wrap the tape around the rehaut then cut it flush with a sharp knife

I was recommended doing this when fitting the crystal to my Milk 5513 case and it worked really well, not sure how it would fare at sea 😄but feels secure

There is the option of chrome pinstripe tape or brushed metal tape if visible
 
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Jdaced30

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20/12/24
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If I have understood correctly (apologies if not) but if the OD of the rehaut is too small could you increase it by adding heatproof tape?you essentially wrap the tape around the rehaut then cut it flush with a sharp knife

I was recommended doing this when fitting the crystal to my Milk 5513 case and it worked really well, not sure how it would fare at sea 😄but feels secure

There is the option of chrome pinstripe tape or brushed metal tape if visible
Thats actually a very good tip. I think I’m gonna try that. And yes, you understood me absolutely right 👌🏼 Thank you!!
 
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