This looks amazing, like the tropical patina could tell a lifetime of stories.a previous tropical attempt.
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The 1016: The Under Appreciated Thread
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johnchpark
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I’m sorry, but a quick noob question.
When you install a Clark T21 with widened WSO bezel, do you need to use the plastic crystal gasket that was on the Raffles?
Or does the T21 fit without needing a gasket?
Thank you
When you install a Clark T21 with widened WSO bezel, do you need to use the plastic crystal gasket that was on the Raffles?
Or does the T21 fit without needing a gasket?
Thank you
- 4/10/22
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- 4/10/22
- 490
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- 93
Crystal directly on the middle case and bezel on the crystal
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Custom bezel....
I have confirmation that the bezels will be done this week end, I think to go there next week to take them and will post some pictures of those things with different crystal.
Stay tuned
I have confirmation that the bezels will be done this week end, I think to go there next week to take them and will post some pictures of those things with different crystal.
Stay tuned
- 4/10/22
- 490
- 817
- 93
Parts for my first 1016 Build arrived yesterday. Basicly all raffles parts
Case has a very funny engraving - maybe a chinese joke
The shape of lugs bother me, I will have to look for the right curving and rework them.
I will order a T21 chrystal (ordered the case with sappire chrystal becaus I read T21 will fit on it.
Will use a NH35 again, love that movement, you can hit the keyless with a hammer
I will try the tropical dial, too. Don't know how to age it properly without destroying the crisp text, but I'm shure our specialist
@369mafia will have a good advise
Case has a very funny engraving - maybe a chinese joke
The shape of lugs bother me, I will have to look for the right curving and rework them.
I will order a T21 chrystal (ordered the case with sappire chrystal becaus I read T21 will fit on it.
Will use a NH35 again, love that movement, you can hit the keyless with a hammer
I will try the tropical dial, too. Don't know how to age it properly without destroying the crisp text, but I'm shure our specialist
@369mafia will have a good advise
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johnchpark
Active Member
Parts for my first 1016 Build arrived yesterday. Basicly all raffles parts
Case has a very funny engraving - maybe a chinese joke
The shape of lugs bother me, I will have to look for the right curving and rework them.
I will order a T21 chrystal (ordered the case with sappire chrystal becaus I read T21 will fit on it.
Will use a NH35 again, love that movement, you can hit the keyless with a hammer
I will try the tropical dial, too. Don't know how to age it properly without destroying the crisp text, but I'm shure our specialist
@369mafia will have a good advise
I also got the same tropical dial. In my experience, best method to age it is bake it in coffee grounds. Others seem have great results painting dials with airbrush, but I don’t have such equipment. Raffles dials are extremely extremely tough. The “Rolex” printing is super difficult to fade off, even after scrubbing with 100% alcohol and bleach. But Acetone will probably kill the dial.
In regards to my build, I’m debating whether to age this tropical 1016 dial or not. I kind of want to keep the lume, so i might hold off
Just had the funny idear to age hands with my wife's make up
Worked fine. When dried its really strong.
I bought 3 sapphire crystal cases and none of them have engravings..….
Case has a very funny engraving - maybe a chinese joke
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Raffles told me they have engravings - they indeed have, but the wrong ones .....
@Winni1611 Nice!! glad to see you trying your hand at an explorer. look fwd to seeing the results.
Yah those engravings are just that, jibberish , I prefer the sterile cases myself. Id rather have none than that. those can be sanded out if you feel inclined to do so .
@johnchpark These tropical dials have a slight metal flake that is enhanced with the clear coat finish and its what gives the color some depth . when you expose those dials to heat the clear coat deteriorates quickly and then you are left with a very flat color , the lume will age darker however but generally with a tropical dial the lume is not darkened because it is the exposure to UV that causes the tropical effects (damage to the finish) on the dial in the first place and lume generally darkens when its stored in a dark place for a period of time. so its difficult to have both,
This was my first attempt at the shoe polish and bake technique. I went sparingly with the shoe polish but you can see how the heat flattened the finish on the dial out . its not bad but not what I was after.
(gen pic for reference)
What I would suggest to @Winni1611 is to use some more of his wifes make up to dirty up the lume on the dial to reduce the new appearance . apply very lightly and dust it off with a fan brush... (the technique is called dry brushing ) that is how I achieved the aged look on my 6538 lume plots. less is more. you can always add more but its difficult to remove more when you want less.
If all goes to plan I hope to receive the prototype caramel tropical 1016 dial by the end of next week (similar to the one I posted above and I will show you guys how it looks out of the box , Ill try aging the lume a bit like I described and then I will attempt to air brush it to give it a sweet tropical look .. *fingers crossed*
my inspiration - what I hope to achieve with my air brush techniques on these new caramel tropical dials. I received my .02 needle for my airbrush so it will give me a tighter pattern which will offer me more control , hopefully allowing me to work around the lume plots so there is less overspray and less clean up afterwards.
Yah those engravings are just that, jibberish , I prefer the sterile cases myself. Id rather have none than that. those can be sanded out if you feel inclined to do so .
@johnchpark These tropical dials have a slight metal flake that is enhanced with the clear coat finish and its what gives the color some depth . when you expose those dials to heat the clear coat deteriorates quickly and then you are left with a very flat color , the lume will age darker however but generally with a tropical dial the lume is not darkened because it is the exposure to UV that causes the tropical effects (damage to the finish) on the dial in the first place and lume generally darkens when its stored in a dark place for a period of time. so its difficult to have both,
This was my first attempt at the shoe polish and bake technique. I went sparingly with the shoe polish but you can see how the heat flattened the finish on the dial out . its not bad but not what I was after.
(gen pic for reference)
What I would suggest to @Winni1611 is to use some more of his wifes make up to dirty up the lume on the dial to reduce the new appearance . apply very lightly and dust it off with a fan brush... (the technique is called dry brushing ) that is how I achieved the aged look on my 6538 lume plots. less is more. you can always add more but its difficult to remove more when you want less.
If all goes to plan I hope to receive the prototype caramel tropical 1016 dial by the end of next week (similar to the one I posted above and I will show you guys how it looks out of the box , Ill try aging the lume a bit like I described and then I will attempt to air brush it to give it a sweet tropical look .. *fingers crossed*
my inspiration - what I hope to achieve with my air brush techniques on these new caramel tropical dials. I received my .02 needle for my airbrush so it will give me a tighter pattern which will offer me more control , hopefully allowing me to work around the lume plots so there is less overspray and less clean up afterwards.
Found this unbranded "Explorer" case with drilled lugs on Aliexpress, has anybody tried it? The angle on the bezel looks lower than on the Raffles.
36MM STEEL EXPLORER WATCH CASE FIT PT5000 ETA2824 ETA2836 Movement 316L Watch Accessories Shell
36MM STEEL EXPLORER WATCH CASE FIT PT5000 ETA2824 ETA2836 Movement 316L Watch Accessories Shell
Two questions bro's
Searched hard for gen spec 2mm spring Bars which go through the complete hole. Only found some in the US with heavy costs for sending. Is there a source in the EU ?
Would like to create that puffy effect on the lume. What to use ?
Thx for your help
Searched hard for gen spec 2mm spring Bars which go through the complete hole. Only found some in the US with heavy costs for sending. Is there a source in the EU ?
Would like to create that puffy effect on the lume. What to use ?
Thx for your help
A mob in London sells them on Ebay... I purchased a set from a seller in Canada at a reasonable price.
Here
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This case look special, not sure for the bezel but curious to see if it fit gen 16200 spec for endlink and crystal assembly....