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The 1016: The Under Appreciated Thread

369mafia

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Nice work on the case shaping and polishing. there is not short cut but your results are well done. It looks virtually new!
 
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Thanks appreciate the feedback

Yes the plan is to have the watch looking as new, not my preferred look but being new to the hobby I don’t feel I have the skill set to age everything consistently.

I recently acquired a milk 5513 case which is very worn looking so once this one is done I’ll move onto that and try to age the components to match.
 
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Bezel update
Got them today, here some pics, I have to do some check to see if all configuration will work properly, I have little time to do some later today

Pictures that I took rapidly now

Bezel 31mm with acrylic middle case and clark t22



Bezel 30.6mm, t21 not sure this one is sternkreuz or Clark type, saphire middle case in work





For the price, it will be 20e, I have to see in a post office for the shipping

Will post more pictures when I'll time to do some check

Pm me if interested
I am very frustrated that I cannot find time today for this, hope to do every check this week end, I post status later, sorry for the delay
 

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Hello, I didn't find time to do the checks i wanted to do today, not sure it will be possible tomorrow, but sure this week end I ll come with a complete status, I ll do a file with the quantity you want and if you can send me your adress to anticipate the shipping... I will go to the post office Saturday morning, I am little out of time this week... Sorry, it s particularly full this week
 

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Hello, I didn't find time to do the checks i wanted to do today, not sure it will be possible tomorrow, but sure this week end I ll come with a complete status, I ll do a file with the quantity you want and if you can send me your adress to anticipate the shipping... I will go to the post office Saturday morning, I am little out of time this week... Sorry, it s particularly full this week
Thanks for taking the initiative … YOU are doing US a favor 🙏
 

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Hello, I didn't find time to do the checks i wanted to do today, not sure it will be possible tomorrow, but sure this week end I ll come with a complete status, I ll do a file with the quantity you want and if you can send me your adress to anticipate the shipping... I will go to the post office Saturday morning, I am little out of time this week... Sorry, it s particularly full this week
hey everything is fine :) we as a community are thankfull that you took the time and effort to find someone doing this. you do not owe us your time. do all you need to do for your rea life first ;-)
 

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Hey, thanks for your attention :), that was very long to have them so a little bit of frustration to can't find time before...

I did some chek for the thin base and this is in spec with my drawing, i have to balance the tolerances in an other way, i give a height value from 1.8mm to 2mm, but it will be better to do 2mm to 2.2mm

I think i was really focused on the raffle one is too thick and go for 2mm nominal minus the manufacturing variation, it will be better in the positive way for this little issue

They are all arround 1.9mm, on the 3d it less visible as i always work with a big part on my screen

 

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I was at the post office this morning, and find that we can have a shipping rate of 9e for international and eu, eu will be tracked for this price, international no, only prior, I have some bull letter that in spec for standard letter.

Here the t21 and the sun


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I have miss something, the image up loader have me a "send to rwi" usually, same for you?
 

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I have miss something, the image up loader have me a "send to rwi" usually, same for you?
3F5NWk.jpeg
 

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I did some check this morning

Acrylic case :

I can confirm that the t21 from sternkreuz and an acrylic middle case will work, no problem here

For the t21 from Clark or other, if the fitment is not tight between the crystal and the middle case without the bezel, the bezel will not compensate the fitment trouble, it's different on each case I have (3 acrylic case) 2 pass and 1 have the bezel loose, all bezel I have are less Than 30.6mm diameter... I cannot guarantee that it will work as the acrylic middle case seem to have variation on this particular diameter

The t22 I have (Clark) and the bezel work on each acrylic case, the crystal is less loose than the t21

For this trouble, I can supply few t22 domed look like lobtime one, i ve reserved the stock at my local shop, it remain him 8 pieces, tell me if you want one, but it need a little adjustment as the crystal I more 30.65mm

Here this crystal mount on an acrylic case




Saphire middle case:

T21 all type, no problem

T22 no problem

T22 domed little rework on the inner diameter of the bezel, it s too tight

So in few words, the acrylic middle case is not constant on the fitment crystal diameter, I have all my bezel less than 30.6mm, with the sternkreuz crystal, no problem, but other brand need a check, if the crystal is loose on your case before assembly, its possible that it will not work properly. The inner diameter on the bezel I have for t21 Is constant at 30.58mm.

T22 seem smaller on the fitment diameter and compensate the smaller diameter on the acrylic middle case.

Check on your side I will send you pm to answer you to confirm, send me your adress and I can prepare some packet this week end.

For the t22 domed, 1 per person, as no stock at the shop, and the guy is not clear on the restock possibility...
 

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A little update, every bezels are on the way, finally for 9e I can give tracking to eu and non eu, will send you a pm with the number later today.

Thank you for the enthousiasme arround this little project, very pleasant to fill every one involved and grateful . Thank you 🙂


 

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The case arrived from aliexpress, reasonably finished overall...though the top of the lugs are ground with an angle.

The Raffles case is .2 mm thicker but that is within norm, 11.96 for Raffles vs 11.79 for aliexpress. The dial seat came in at 29.35 mm on aliexpress.
The case back has a little more thread and is a tad smoother to screw down, it is also finished nicer inside the back.

Side by side has Raffles on left.

Looks like a Raffles case to me.


 

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The case arrived from aliexpress, reasonably finished overall...though the top of the lugs are ground with an angle.

The Raffles case is .2 mm thicker but that is within norm, 11.96 for Raffles vs 11.79 for aliexpress. The dial seat came in at 29.35 mm on aliexpress.
The case back has a little more thread and is a tad smoother to screw down, it is also finished nicer inside the back.

Side by side has Raffles on left.

Looks like a Raffles case to me.




I would appreciate it if these people would use the same thread as the Rolex 16200 case set ...30.8 mm.
 

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Update on case.

Unless the new Raffles case has a larger pendant tube to case thread (2.91 mm on case tube), this is not a Raffles case.

Probably ideal for those that want a case to take the older 3.0mm x .35mm for 6.0mm crown.



Not something that currently interests me.




Included are measurements of the installed sapphire crystal, I popped it out.

 
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