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Off-catalogue Rolex franken builds - confessions of a Daytonaholic

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Ronaldo’s new watch is worth a minimum $500,000. But if you check closely between his watch which is the 116598, the numbers are in diamonds. I prefer the 116595 where the numbers are in sapphires. But that is just my personal preference. Can’t believe our Kruising Daytona collector doesnt have the best watch that Rolex ever designed. LOL. JMHO.
it's on the list ;)
 

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not sure if this is the right thread… Given that there is no news on when Clean is ever going to release its version of the Le Mans Daytona, I’m considering to make a build a franken Le Mans using Clean’s 126500 as a base. Are the steel cases on Rolex’s 12 series different from the precious metal cases, similar to the 11 series? If so, perhaps I may need to pick another model instead?
 

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not sure if this is the right thread… Given that there is no news on when Clean is ever going to release its version of the Le Mans Daytona, I’m considering to make a build a franken Le Mans using Clean’s 126500 as a base. Are the steel cases on Rolex’s 12 series different from the precious metal cases, similar to the 11 series? If so, perhaps I may need to pick another model instead?
Why use Clean 126500 as a base? Why not 126518 Ghost as a base? Recall that the Le Mans is white gold so using 126500 case will have wrong markings overall.

Why not buy a QF instead?
 
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Why use Clean 126500 as a base? Why not 126518 Ghost as a base? Recall that the Le Mans is white gold so using 126500 case will have wrong markings overall.

Why not buy a QF instead?
Off the top of my head, I can only think of the 126500 from Clean. Since I prefer a bracelet over oyster flex, the 126518 might not be a good choice to start with. From the comments that I have gathered in this forum, QF has incorrect case shape and crown, and the movement in QF is also the 4130 not the 4131. Given that the Le Mans bezel and dial are available in the market, I have been considering about building a Frankens Le Mans as a quick fix until Clean releases its own version.
 

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Off the top of my head, I can only think of the 126500 from Clean. Since I prefer a bracelet over oyster flex, the 126518 might not be a good choice to start with. From the comments that I have gathered in this forum, QF has incorrect case shape and crown, and the movement in QF is also the 4130 not the 4131. Given that the Le Mans bezel and dial are available in the market, I have been considering about building a Frankens Le Mans as a quick fix until Clean releases its own version.
My personal opinion for you is to wait or buy the QF.

The QF using the SH4131 now, before hand you were correct they used the SL-4801, but no longer.

The QF does have pushers that are a little too long and some crown guard issues, I also agree.

However, QF is the best "out of the box" one right now (you can also look into APSF if you want one with a correct case but incorrect dial).

The build you're "asking" to make using a Clean 126500 base will be expensive, and also wrong in many areas.

You will spend time to source a Clean 126500, a custom bezel, custom dial, (maybe) white gold plating, as well as a open caseback. Additionally then remeber that the Clean movement has engravings for 4131, not 4132. So you would be spending quite alot of money for a watch that lacks alot of details as a replica.

Let's say :

- Clean : $700
- Bezel + Dial (conservative pricing) : $500
- Open Caseback : $50
- Labor : $100

Total price : $1300

So you paid double the QF for a watch that still has many flawed aspects.
 
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My personal opinion for you is to wait or buy the QF.

The QF using the SH4131 now, before hand you were correct they used the SL-4801, but no longer.

The QF does have pushers that are a little too long and some crown guard issues, I also agree.

However, QF is the best "out of the box" one right now (you can also look into APSF if you want one with a correct case but incorrect dial).

The build you're "asking" to make using a Clean 126500 base will be expensive, and also wrong in many areas.

You will spend time to source a Clean 126500, a custom bezel, custom dial, (maybe) white gold plating, as well as a open caseback. Additionally then remeber that the Clean movement has engravings for 4131, not 4132. So you would be spending quite alot of money for a watch that lacks alot of details as a replica.

Let's say :

- Clean : $700
- Bezel + Dial (conservative pricing) : $500
- Open Caseback : $50
- Labor : $100

Total price : $1300

So you paid double the QF for a watch that still has many flawed aspects.
I suppose the QF would be a pretty rational choice at the moment. That pretty much explains why No wonder there hasn’t been any Franken Le Mans around despite the parts availability.
 

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I suppose the QF would be a pretty rational choice at the moment. That pretty much explains why No wonder there hasn’t been any Franken Le Mans around despite the parts availability.
You're welcome by the way.
 
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i was going to make a cucumber sandwich, was going to take a marrow then cut off all the good bits. Slap it onto a weetabix and call it a wecumber sandwich. Waddya think 👍😂.

Or you should just BUY THE QF (Jedi mind tricks ) as Reaps suggested 😉
 

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Some very positive news today, after a long wait, literally months in the making, another one of my builds has been completed!

The 116509 tahitian MOP dial, specs are:

Clean 116509 base
Deep xtal
SW tahitian MOP dial

Pics:

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And to top it off, my CF 116519 panda racing dial finally arrived also. I just need to find a nice racing strap for it, or a brown gator, and it'll be perfect:

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Racing dial looks amazing? Where is the dial from?

Oh it’s stock CF?
 
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The racing dial is indeed stock CF. They absolutely nailed the dials on these imo, in some pics they look flat white, but this does have some texture and in certain light has a creamy colour to it, like gen.
Looks absolutely amazing…. Sigh, finding my wallet yet again :)
 

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I don't believe it was on the site, but I reached out via WhatsaApp and asked if he could source one. Told me it shouldn't be a problem. While he was replying, he sent me QC pics of another customer's last order for one. All the markings are correct and I thought I could see a little bit of the sunburst on the dial. He told me that if it didn't pass QC, on my end, that he would fully refund me. I also told him to add an OF band to the order. I told him no rush, so we'll see how long this takes.
Hi were you able to order your Le Mans from Steve? I just ordered mine and it's on the way. I can take pics if anyone is curious or interested.