Not worth buying in gen

[Variatio Delectat]

Although I would love to have a Cartier with a custom dial saying C*ntier! That would be a hoot!

Yep. So maybe you'd have fun with the "Supreme X Submariner". At least I do like it : https://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/339005-Noob-V7-The-Supreme-X-Submariner

 

[Tigerdragon]

Thats not a custom dial, rolex had a Limited Edition with **** em (100 pieces) but only special people had gifted one. So its not really "custom".

 

[shelby1501]

Lets be honest, you like the name and not the design. The only reason you like the design, is because it's a Rolex, as otherwise there are plenty of other homeage models you could wear with the same design - But you want the brand name on your wrist, so you buy a rep..

I disagree. I had Steinhart which is amazingly built watch for the money but while it's trying to be a Rolex, something was missing on it. For example I couldn't live with markers, bracelet design, bezel teeth, 42mm diameter... It just didn't feel right. It's not the same if rep has the same shape and all details like gen or if it's a homage which is trying to look like a Rolex but it has so many differences. I don't care what someone will think of my watch, no one even notice it ever and I wear it only because of myself (I'm 24 so no one would ever believe I could afford a gen Rolex or AP even if I tried to fool someone) but I like it to be as close to gen as possible as it just feels complete and that's what I enjoy in. Not because it says Rolex on a dial.

You are proving my point every time you mention the cost. I am talking about people where money is no object. There is no reason to buy or frequent a rep site. And as I said it was just my opinion commenting on what others had said, off point from OP 's original posting. You think because you have $8000 to spend you can afford it. Price is not an issue for people who can afford these items.
BP SD.

You should ask [MENTION=109306]Hazza[/MENTION] for his opinion to understand what [MENTION=73693]Tigerdragon[/MENTION] is trying to say. How would you explain someone who own a yacht would stop buying gens and start buying reps because he don't want to be robbed when a watch needs a service or because it has QC issues being few months old? Too bad he is rarely here these days and I can't find that post from him.

 

[shelby1501]

1 No-one other than watch nuts will notice what watch anyone is wearing, other than a Rolex

2 Those who did notice won't care

3 The point of buying a replica is that it be accurate. It cant be accurate with a blank dial. the logo and name are part of the design.


I buy watches, Rep and Gen for me and no-one else. Everyone who knows me already knows I can buy pretty much anything I want and they don't care about that either.
It would be terribly sad to live your life to appease people you don't even like , who don't even care.

+100000
Finally a post which sums it up, especially 3)! I'm always trying to explain it but obviously my english isn't good enough or something. Great post man!

 

[Tigerdragon]

@shelby1501 and @timnic54 say that what I meant only in a better way thank you!

 

[Ubpfc]

How is he being robbed when it needs a service? Not because of the price surely. Because that would make no sense. I don't have the money I used to but even I don't think twice about paying $650 to get it serviced every 5 or 6 yrs. that's part and parcel of owning a great watch. If it bothers you that you have to pay that much you obviously can't afford it. (Oh, I think we've been here before). And remember I'm talking about the majority of people, there are always exceptions to any rule and a rich person buying reps because he thinks paying $650 for a service is an exception indeed. Although I'm sure they exist. As for QC issues after a few months: take it back ffs!!!

 

[2fake4u]

This topic will get beaten to death till the end of time. There are pros and cons to both sides.

For my case, I am starting to get away from reps of bigger name watch companies, just due to the fact that almost everyone I deal with on a daily basis has become to realize I am a watch connessier. Everytime I show up with a new watch, they want to check it out, and I dont necessarily like saying its a rep if I have a rep on, because then, when I am wearing a gen, I get "Thats another rep". If Im going to be spending $xxxx on a gen, I dont want people to think its a rep.

Because of this, I have started to switch some of my more liked reps over to blank dials. Casebacks, crowns and straps may still have the logos on them, but at least when they look at it, I can say its a "Custom" watch vs saying a rep watch. Just bought a bunch of rep dials to start trying my hand at modding them to blanks. Easy enough on the smooth faces, but the ones with some texture are proving difficult and Ive ruined a couple now.

 

[redtien7]

Hey everybody, greetings from California!
I'm new to the forum and wanted to thank you all for the great info and awesome community!
I'm definitely going to be making some purchases soon (prob PAM111 first), but wanted to know your thoughts on the Rolex Datejust II 41mm & DayDate II 40mm reps. Are there any versions you guys think are a solid rep and close to gen?

I'm open to any good DD II and DJ II versions, but currently have my eyes on these, either fluted / non-fluted bezel:
http://chazingtime.com/product/dayd...-stick-dial-smooth-bezel-ss-bracelet-eta2836/
http://www.trb88.top/index.php?route=product/product&path=39_212&product_id=816

Thanks

 

[timnic54]

Hey everybody, greetings from California!
I'm new to the forum and wanted to thank you all for the great info and awesome community!
I'm definitely going to be making some purchases soon (prob PAM111 first), but wanted to know your thoughts on the Rolex Datejust II 41mm & DayDate II 40mm reps. Are there any versions you guys think are a solid rep and close to gen?

I'm open to any good DD II and DJ II versions, but currently have my eyes on these, either fluted / non-fluted bezel:
http://chazingtime.com/product/dayd...-stick-dial-smooth-bezel-ss-bracelet-eta2836/
http://www.trb88.top/index.php?route=product/product&path=39_212&product_id=816

Thanks

The BP DJII is great

 

[shelby1501]

How is he being robbed when it needs a service? Not because of the price surely. Because that would make no sense. I don't have the money I used to but even I don't think twice about paying $650 to get it serviced every 5 or 6 yrs. that's part and parcel of owning a great watch. If it bothers you that you have to pay that much you obviously can't afford it. (Oh, I think we've been here before). And remember I'm talking about the majority of people, there are always exceptions to any rule and a rich person buying reps because he thinks paying $650 for a service is an exception indeed. Although I'm sure they exist. As for QC issues after a few months: take it back ffs!!!

Like someone said, this will get beaten to death so no point to try explain it anymore. I would just like Hazza to join this discussion.

 

[shelby1501]

Oh and ask [MENTION=75091]andman[/MENTION] about qc issues of gen AP's or read around the gen forums about non alligned Rolex crowns at the rehaut and similar sh*t on $8-40k watches. Come on.

Edit: found the links

https://forum.replica-watch.info/vb...P-ROO-44-RG-GEN-and-J12-Comparison-Pics/page6

https://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/201508-My-Gen-Panda-with-a-faulty-dial

 

[Variatio Delectat]

Thats not a custom dial, rolex had a Limited Edition with **** em (100 pieces) but only special people had gifted one. So its not really "custom".

Only 20, apparently: https://forum.replica-watch.info/vb...riner/page3?p=3019259&viewfull=1#post-3019259, and even this might only be a rumor. Having said that, I just thought it might be fun to have one of those f*cking watches.

 

[Tigerdragon]

Oh only 20 ups no not really a rumor. My friend confirmed it but said something about 100 pieces maybe not all for sale.

 

[Variatio Delectat]

Either way, some interesting stories can be found about it, up to some wondering what the Rolex guys may have smoked when they did this...

 

[Darkimplicates]

A rep is a REP for a reason. It does not compare to the gen. Will the rep be easily exposed & have tells easily seen by the general public & novice watch-smiths? No. 95% of watch owners/enthusiasts will not know if your rep is really a genuine(has anyone besides yourself actually glared at your rep, eyes just inches away, appreciating its beauty). Once the case back has been opened, then maybe it can be an tell for some, depending on the version/type of the rep & the experience of the watchsmith/individual observing it. While I would rather have a gen over a rep any day of the week, I prefer reps. Even if I made 1 Mil USD a year, I prefer reps. They're easily replaceable and my heart beat doesn't race abnormally high whenever I do anything that can damage/scratch the watch(which is almost everything). There is no question that the quality of a gen is of MUCH higher quality than that of a rep. If you think otherwise ~ do some research, please. Is a gen worth the money? IT DEPENDS, of course on the person & how much that person is willing to spend on a watch. The question: "Is it worth it?" ~ Is so subjective and is not worth the time to argue one side over another. EVERY PERSON IS DIFFERENT, & EVERY PERSON'S WILLINGNESS TO SPEND $ ON things such as watches is different. Arguing "is it worth it?" Is IMO a stupid question and one that should not be asked or answered b/c it is a question that cannot be answered objectively. My opinion: I can't see myself every buying a gen. Even if i had 10Mil I would still buy reps(a lot more of them). If I was wealthy enough I would SO much rather give reps away via raffles on this forum than spending 10,000$ + on a gen. RWI is not just a "rep forum" but a place to understand the basics of the inner workings, composition, & physics of a watch. But, also a place where people come together to express/discuss their love for watches, while making good friends in the process.

Totally agree. +10 for this

I think it all comes down to individual.

Is buying rep worth it over gen?
1 rich man will say no. If you are rich, even if you wear a rep people will think its real. Why buy a $10,000 watch when you can get pretty much the same thing for $400 and still have $9,600 in your bank.

Another rich man will say why buy a rep when you can easily afford a gen. Then buys 10 gen watch because he can and a AP is just pocket change.

Is buying a gen worth?
It depends on individual too. If $8000 dosent make you any poorer then of course its worth. You are paying for whats its worth.

If that $8000 will make you live in poverty for the next 6 month then of course its not worth

But if you have always dream of owning a particular watch that cost $8000 (or anything else), saved and worked your ass off just to be able to fulfill your dream of owning it then id say go for it, its definitely worth ever sweat. Then again after buying that watch, you should have enough money left to be able to support your expenses and other responsibilities.

But then after working your ass off for your $8000 dream watch, you have a change of heart and decided to settle for the same $300 rep and save the rest of the money for better things.

get what i mean?

different people, different opinion, different means of living.


But a watch worth mentioning is definitely the Hublot and PAMs

 

[Tigerdragon]

Why? I have only problems with my rep hublot even with Gen strap its just totally uncomfortable even the gen has the same shit rubberstrap, i'am really pissed at the design because its just not good. It looks good yes but thats all. Never would buy that as gen. Maybe the "King Power" Versions are better but the BB V6 Versions are just shit. The quality of the rep is amazing yes but the confort to wear it is just not good at all (same shit with gen).

 

[rek0001]

I've heard that complaint so often about the Hublots being uncomfortable, a real shame.

Didn't the Hublot designers realize this, or just not care?

Anyways I'm not getting one, too bad, nice looking watch.

 

[redtien7]

The BP DJII is great

Awesome thanks, so should we add it to the list then?
Also, is a certain dial color better/more gen-like and does it matter if it is fluted vs non-fluted?
And just curious how the rep gold or rose gold DJII holds up and looks as far as compared to gen.

 

[Variatio Delectat]

Why? I have only problems with my rep hublot even with Gen strap its just totally uncomfortable even the gen has the same shit rubberstrap, i'am really pissed at the design because its just not good. It looks good yes but thats all. Never would buy that as gen. Maybe the "King Power" Versions are better but the BB V6 Versions are just shit. The quality of the rep is amazing yes but the confort to wear it is just not good at all (same shit with gen).

Seconded, 100%. I own two BB V6 models, both on gen straps (the rep strap is nothing but utter crap). The look is amazing, undoubtedly one of the best 1:1 reps on the market, they run like a charm, perfectly keep time - however uncomfortable to wear and therefore most of the time sitting in the watch box.

 

[nipe]

Totally agree. +10 for this

I think it all comes down to individual.

Is buying rep worth it over gen?
1 rich man will say no. If you are rich, even if you wear a rep people will think its real. Why buy a $10,000 watch when you can get pretty much the same thing for $400 and still have $9,600 in your bank.

With this logic you could argue nothing is worth buying.

Even better, "I don't buy gen because I can invest the money I have saved on REP and use them better." I'm sure these people also prefer living in ghettos and taking the bus cause that's cheaper. Why pay €2000 in rent, when you can live somewhere for €440, you could use that saving to invest in something. Why buy a car for €40,000 when you can take the bus and make much better investments.