Not worth buying in gen

[peterpl]

AP is getting a bad name with their movements of late. Seems most ADs and dealers I talk to know about recent AP movement issues. My friend is waiting already 4 months on a brand new royal oak to be fixed.

 

[timnic54]

AP is getting a bad name with their movements of late. Seems most ADs and dealers I talk to know about recent AP movement issues. My friend is waiting already 4 months on a brand new royal oak to be fixed.

Many manufacturers, not only AP have rested too long on their laurels and need to shape up.

 

[m4nutd]

Watch (Brand & Model)	Genuine	Replica	Gen Premium	Extra Functions
1.Audemars Piguet ROO Diver (JF)	$16,500.00	$438.00	37.67123	Date
2.Bell & Ross 03-92 ZF	$2,575.00	$298.00	8.64094	Date
3.Blancpain Fifty Fathoms (Noob)	$12,000.00	$308.00	38.96104	Date
4.Breitling SuperOcean Abyss	$2,795.00	$358.00	7.807263	Date (Chrono Available)
5.Breitling SuperOcean Heritage Black	$3,095.00	$278.00	11.13309	Date (Chrono Available)
6.Cartier Santos XL	$5,395.00	$358.00	15.06983	Date
7.Hublot Big Bang V6 SS	$7,495.00	$398.00	18.83166	Date (Chrono Available)
8.IWC 3777-01 ZF factory	$3,895.00	$348.00	11.19253	Date/Chrono
9.IWC 3878 Spitfire v6f	$7,840.00	$258.00	30.3876	Date/Chrono
10.IWC Big Pilot 5009-1 ZF factory	$9,495.00	$368.00	25.80163	Date/PR
11.IWC Ingenieur	$4,697.00	$318.00	14.77044	Date (Chrono Available)
12.Montblanc Timewalker chrono Noob a7753	$2,795.00	$368.00	7.595109	Date/Chrono
13.Omega Seamaster 300	$4,095.00	$258.00	15.87209	Date
14.Omega Seamaster 300 Spectre KW	$7,896.85	$268.00	29.46586	Date
15.Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean 600m 42 and 45mm (LMPO and CRPO)	$5,390.00	$278.00	19.38849	Date (Chrono Available)
16.Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean GMT 600m	$4,875.00	$298.00	16.35906	GMT
17a. Panerai 111	$4,995.00	$258.00	19.36047	Time Only
17b. Panerai 164	$6,190.00	$238.00	26.0084	Date
17c. Panerai 292	$6,300.00	$258.00	24.4186	Time Only
17d. Panerai 571	$9,995.00	$248.00	40.30242	Date
18.Rolex Yachtmaster Rhodium Noob SA3135	$9,995.00	$418.00	23.91148	Date
19.Rolex TC 16610	$4,850.00	$750.00	6.466667	Date
20.Rolex Submariner Ceramic 116610 Noob V6s/V7	$7,895.00	$358.00	22.05307	Date
21.Rolex Sea Dweller 4000 BP	$8,379.00	$388.00	21.59536	Date
22.Rolex Sea Dweller Deepsea (DBlue) Noob V7	$13,595.00	$388.00	35.03866	Date
23.Sevenfriday P series (P1-1, P3-1), V series (V2-1) and M series	$1,180.00	$228.00	5.175439	Time Only (Date Available)
24.Tag Heuer Aquaracer 300	$1,049.00	$398.00	2.635678	Date (Chrono Available)
25.Tag Heuer Aquaracer Calibre 5	$1,475.00	$308.00	4.788961	Date
26.Tag Heuer Carrera calibre 1887 v6f	$3,195.00	$298.00	10.72148	Date/Chrono
27.Tudor Blackbay Red	$2,890.00	$288.00	10.03472	Date
28.Tudor Ranger Heritage	$1,995.00	$338.00	5.902367	Time Only
29.Tudor Pelagos ZF	$3,950.00	$328.00	12.04268	Date
30.Zenith Type 20 extra special	$3,350.00	$308.00	10.87662	Time Only

Hi Everyone, I made a quick chart of all the watches, the genuine price, replica price, premium, and functions.

Feel free to copy, use this graph, create a google docs spreadsheet, or do whatever you want. Hope this helps the community!

Remember when this type of thing was what this thread was about? It sure was a nice, useful thread back then, before it got hijacked into the b.s.ing about the pros and cons of owning them instead.

 

[phdsjain]

I agree, this thread needs to be cleaned up. Mods, please?

 

[Variatio Delectat]

Don't worry too much, that's how discussions on forums go sometimes. However getting back to topic would not be a bad idea indeed.

 

[Aquanautilus]

It still IS a very useful thread and pro/cons discussions and experiences deliver the idea of this thread quite right why some watches aren't just "worth" buying in gen.


Anyways...so should we put the BP Datejust II on the list, or not?

 

[timnic54]

Remember when this type of thing was what this thread was about? It sure was a nice, useful thread back then, before it got hijacked into the b.s.ing about the pros and cons of owning them instead.

Surely people discussing their experience owning watches is pertinent to the subject matter of the thread.

 

[monstar]

Yeah lets get back on track (no seriously, I forgot I was gonna ask a question a few days ago thabks to the heated discussion)

Is it true that the Tudor black bay (red and blue) reps still use mineral crystal? Wouldn't that make it a bad rep?

 

[chinachinaman]

Would love some recommendations of vintage watches.

 

[TylerJCGreen]

Yeah lets get back on track (no seriously, I forgot I was gonna ask a question a few days ago thabks to the heated discussion)

Is it true that the Tudor black bay (red and blue) reps still use mineral crystal? Wouldn't that make it a bad rep?

I'm looking into getting a black bay, the V4 is sapphire, V2 which is still available is mineral crystal from what I gather.


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[monstar]

I'm looking into getting a black bay, the V4 is sapphire, V2 which is still available is mineral crystal from what I gather.


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Oh, that explains, thanks.

Funny how the red ones have gold hands but the blue ones have white hands.

 

[TylerJCGreen]

Oh, that explains, thanks.

Funny how the red ones have gold hands but the blue ones have white hands.

I know, from memory the dial is also different, I think the blue has a black dial and the red an almost brown/burgundy colour to it.

I'm stuck for choice. I prefer the red but I like the dial/hands more on the blue.


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[timnic54]

I could see the new noob EXP II with correct hand stack and hour hand function making it onto this list, should be available very soon.

 

[Rainbowwatch]

Excellent thread I love my Gen Seiko divers never failed even after being shot with WD-40 to clean and lube for the last 30 years all the others are indeed toys.

 

[kawamalla]

What do you guys think of the newly released Rolex DayDate 40mm by BP?

 

[egcmipe]

So true...Seiko divers are the best value for the money.

 

[Ultra929]

What do you guys think of the newly released Rolex DayDate 40mm by BP?

Watch looks spot on. I had a Day Date II for years and loved it. Only problem is the weight so don't let a gen Rolex owner handle it as they will know the difference.

 

[matty1938]

This post is great, I think we have all wondered this. I have 2 realistic dream watches I one day want to own in gen but in the short term great reps will have to do 1 gen down though lol.

 

[simonjay]

This post is great, I think we have all wondered this. I have 2 realistic dream watches I one day want to own in gen but in the short term great reps will have to do 1 gen down though lol.

I also think that this is one of the best threads on RWI. Maybe could it be considered for a sticky? Mods?

 

[wintersx866]

The Breitling Avenger Seawolf DLC 44 mm rep is definitely a super rep for sure. Only error of the rep as of now from its gen Breitling Avenger Blackbird 44 mm is the case back color is slightly off (metal tinge is a bit yellowier) and the "C" on certifie is a "G" but the rep maker is in the process of fixing this.

Also the rep is utilizing a Asian 2824 which is pretty good since the gen uses a Breitling Caliber 17 which essentially is just a modified Eta 2824-2.

Lastly it appears the weight of the rep is pretty close to gen as somebody said the rep with strap comes in at around 90 to 100 grams and the gen (without the strap) comes in at 73 grams since its a full titanium case with DLC coating.

Its this one in the link btw:

http://puretime02.com/avenger-seawolf-dlc-black-dial-on-black-nylon-strap-a2824.html#