Why don't you buy the reps with the 28XX movements in the first place, saves swapping the movements.
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Why don't you buy the reps with the 28XX movements in the first place, saves swapping the movements.
Is it cheap/easy to swap the movement out?
I bought a sub recently, my first rep, and its very good, but the second hand judders along and doesn't sweep, which i assume the better movements do?
I bought a sub recently, my first rep, and its very good, but the second hand judders along and doesn't sweep, which i assume the better movements do?
Easier and cheaper than buying the watch with the right movement in the first place ?
just wondering the cost of the improved movement (on its own) and whether its an easy task to carry out?
Happy with the watch for the moment, or it may be worth selling on in future and just buying one with a better movement already in it....
Happy with the watch for the moment, or it may be worth selling on in future and just buying one with a better movement already in it....
The list is open for proposal, if there will be positive comments on one model, it will be on it!
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Fantastic job kicking this off [MENTION=121094]timnic54[/MENTION] I agree the REPS we are seeing today are just crazy good. The biggest issue I have had with Reps, is the quality control and over all longevity of materials. When comparing a GEN IWC MarkXVII I owned to a REP MARKXVII the differences were felt in the smoothness of the movement, and how solid the small parts felt. Overall, was there any way I could justify the $4000 mark up for this, NO. Funny part, the GEN IWC had some material, very very small on the dial, not lint but same idea..so much for QA
I think you will see longevity with a GEN where as I have had REPS that you can tell they cheaped out on one area or another. Over all though, for the money, you get to try a watch out and see how you feel about it, or a brand for that matter with regards to wearablity and general style.
I think you will see longevity with a GEN where as I have had REPS that you can tell they cheaped out on one area or another. Over all though, for the money, you get to try a watch out and see how you feel about it, or a brand for that matter with regards to wearablity and general style.
Subjective as always. I have owned 3 gen Rolexes and 10 or 11 reps. I bought the gens when money was no object to me. And I mean $8000 for a watch was like me spending $8 now (oh how the times have changed). I really believe if you can afford a gen, and by afford I mean you wouldn't even miss the money because you have plenty of it, you would buy the gen, if you were loaded why even look at a rep? I know I never did. A normal working class person can save $4000-$5000 and buy a gen but to me that isn't what "affording" a gen is, being able to buy it and affording it are two different things. If you are saving for a few years to buy a gen that means you can't afford it so it changes your perspective on the "not worth buying in gen" discussion. You are always thinking about the monetary value when weighing your options of gen v rep. If you are loaded no rep is worth buying over a gen. if you think it is you are not as "loaded" as you think you are. If, like a lot of us, you can't afford a gen these reps are as good as it gets. Not the same of course. Anyone who has owned a gen Rolex (example) will tell you there is just something so special about it, people far more eloquent than me could probably explain it. The only reason I came to this site was because I could no longer afford the real thing. Having rambled on for far too long and probably pissing off a few people (just my 2 cents that's all) I have to say having owned the gen 16600 (and it's been said a million times) the BP SD 16600 is fantastic OTB. Of course improvements can always be made. I added the normal stuff: TC bracelet/hands/dial with gen insert/crown and it's about as good as it gets. Would I buy the gen if I could "afford" it? Without a doubt.
Worth selling You need to swap the movement ($100 if asian $200 if swiss) plus the hands (they don´t fit) plus the dial (or cut the dial feet), swap over the datewheel overlay, swap over the crown to a new stem, resize the stem possibly.
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As someone who has the money i would never buy a gen. Because I know how the production Value is from rolex so yeah. I like the designs but I would never ever spending 8k or more on a watch.
Lets be honest, you like the name and not the design. The only reason you like the design, is because it's a Rolex, as otherwise there are plenty of other homeage models you could wear with the same design
- But you want the brand name on your wrist, so you buy a rep..Can't he like both?
Can you find me an homage that gets as many details right as the Noob later series?
Can you find me an homage that gets as many details right as the Noob later series?
Lets be honest, you like the name and not the design. The only reason you like the design, is because it's a Rolex, as otherwise there are plenty of other homeage models you could wear with the same design
I don't think you understood my comment. Again, having the money and affording to spend it are 2 different things imo. As soon as you mention the price you probably can't afford it. You are confusing having the cash and affording the cash. If 8k was like $8 to you why wouldn't you buy it? You are letting the price dictate your decisions so you probably can buy it but can't afford it. Do you see what I'm getting at? I'm not talking about the average person having $8000 saved up. Rolex was just an example, if money was no object, which is what I am talking about, you wouldn't be on a rep forum trashing a Rolex's production value.
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No i can afford it but I never would spend that money on it because I grow up in a family with no money so i know how important money is. I would never buy a t shirt for 300 euro or something and I like the design i have a Steinhart for 420€ and the ceramic bezel is the worst shit i've ever seen thats the reason why I bought a regmariner for 150€ because I like the white markers, gen doesn't have white markers on the ceramic (they have platinium which i hate). I not care about any brand i bought a AP homage for 75€ yesterday and I have a ROO replica for 400€ why buy a homage? Because I liked the design thats it!
A little example, i have a Hublot replica with Gen Strap. Its the worst watch i have because the Gen strap is pretty crap. So i go to the AD and look for the "gen" (i thought maybe the replica is the problem) and no it was not the replica, the gen was the same uncomfortable watch like the replica. Same with the AP ROO 15400, i was looking for the Gen it looks awsome and the watchband is the best ive ever seen, would i spend 20k (blue version) on it? Hell no! Sorry but i like my money and even i have a lot of it i still be on the "ground". I have a lot of Hublot Homages like TWSteel, Orion and Heinrichssohn, which are all better in "sitting" on my wrist. So why spending 10k on a gen one, when a TWSteel for 300 € sits better?
My neighbour had financial problems, i gave him money. Why? Because he is a great guy. I dont care about brands i like people and friends a lot more than any watch. Sorry when someone is now offended or something but its just my opinion. Money is not everything. Because you talking about Rolex, every streetkid here have a rolex (fake or gen who knows) its nothing special anymore they even lower the production costs from 700 Dollars to 500 Dollars (a friend of mine works there in the PR-Department).
and I have a ROO replica for 400€ why buy a homage? Because I liked the design thats it!A little example, i have a Hublot replica with Gen Strap. Its the worst watch i have because the Gen strap is pretty crap. So i go to the AD and look for the "gen" (i thought maybe the replica is the problem) and no it was not the replica, the gen was the same uncomfortable watch like the replica. Same with the AP ROO 15400, i was looking for the Gen it looks awsome and the watchband is the best ive ever seen, would i spend 20k (blue version) on it? Hell no! Sorry but i like my money and even i have a lot of it i still be on the "ground". I have a lot of Hublot Homages like TWSteel, Orion and Heinrichssohn, which are all better in "sitting" on my wrist. So why spending 10k on a gen one, when a TWSteel for 300 € sits better?
My neighbour had financial problems, i gave him money. Why? Because he is a great guy. I dont care about brands i like people and friends a lot more than any watch. Sorry when someone is now offended or something but its just my opinion. Money is not everything. Because you talking about Rolex, every streetkid here have a rolex (fake or gen who knows) its nothing special anymore they even lower the production costs from 700 Dollars to 500 Dollars (a friend of mine works there in the PR-Department).
You are proving my point every time you mention the cost. I am talking about people where money is no object. There is no reason to buy or frequent a rep site. And as I said it was just my opinion commenting on what others had said, off point from OP 's original posting. You think because you have $8000 to spend you can afford it. Price is not an issue for people who can afford these items.
BP SD.
BP SD.
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You dont understand my point and have other opinions its fine. For me money do always have a Point even when you have a billion Dollars. Thats the reason why most of the famous celebrities are broke as hell after 10-20 years, because they can not handle it and buy luxury cars and other things.
And why keep trashing Rolex??? You sound like one of those Apple haters that prefers Android and won't let it go.