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Noob released a new AP Diver. Now called V4.1...

Debellum

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Again with the QC pics ? :picard:


Are you on some kind of drugs?
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If you are not, go gen.
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Hahahaha..... You make me death with laugh..... :lol2:

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Rubberj00

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You could drop Vac a message and see if he's managed to get hold of any v4.1's and then he'll recess the bezel screws before sending it to you.

I don't get why people are taking the piss out of this dude - the v3.5 had recessed screws so you'd expect this one to aswell! The dust thing was just a misunderstanding obviously.

From the v4.1 threads i've read I think all of them the bezel screws are only flush, which does kind of suck - depends wether it bothers you that much.
 

Debellum

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Junio, you sick and twisted child !!! :hehehe:

:hehehe: Me ?
I don't pretend a rep 1:1 like a gen......I'm not sick ! :D:
My dear BMW , read that one wanna a rep 1:1 to gen make me an infinity laugh.:lol2:

Junio M.
 

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I don't get why people are taking the piss out of this dude - the v3.5 had recessed screws so you'd expect this one to aswell! The dust thing was just a misunderstanding obviously.

From the v4.1 threads i've read I think all of them the bezel screws are only flush, which does kind of suck - depends wether it bothers you that much.

V4.1 have already got a thread for itself of up to 41 pages and together with many other threads with lots of photos and personal reviews in it. Does any of the V4.1 have recessed screw? No, I don't think so or at least I have not seen one after so many.

So how can one expect to get a V4.1 with recessed screw OOTB when the whole batch of it don't comes with just because the previous V3.5 have it? We all know that there will be slight different from batches to batches, so when this batch don't comes with it, is it an acceptable reason to reject the qc just because of a common flaw for the current batch?

I don't think it is reasonable reason to have a watch rejected just because of this.
 

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V4.1 have already got a thread for itself of up to 41 pages and together with many other threads with lots of photos and personal reviews in it. Does any of the V4.1 have recessed screw? No, I don't think so or at least I have not seen one after so many.

So how can one expect to get a V4.1 with recessed screw OOTB when the whole batch of it don't comes with just because the previous V3.5 have it? We all know that there will be slight different from batches to batches, so when this batch don't comes with it, is it an acceptable reason to reject the qc just because of a common flaw for the current batch?

I don't think it is reasonable reason to have a watch rejected just because of this.

with respect carlton

do 4.1 bezel screw come with no recessed or it really CANT be recessed?
if it really come with no recessed screw what can we do, can only accept this batches yes
BUT
lets say if i buy one now and got no recessed screw however it can be done and adjusted
can our TD fix it for us before sending the watch right after seeing the QC?
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carlton

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with respect carlton

do 4.1 bezel screw come with no recessed or it really CANT be recessed?
if it really come with no recessed screw what can we do, can only accept this batches yes
BUT
lets say if i buy one now and got no recessed screw however it can be done and adjusted
can our TD fix it for us before sending the watch right after seeing the QC?
:)

I believe the screw can be recessed with a bit of modding from modder or someone who have experience and correct tools to do it. But imo i would say that we can't expect TD to fix it before sending out, they are not oblige to do so.

They sell the watch as it is from maker and the most they can do is to update maker about the common flaw and or obvious flaw of the current batch and then it is up to maker whether they wanna fix it or not.

As for buyer, it is your responsibility to read, see and understand what it is with the current batch and decide yourself whether you can accept it or not.

End of the day, you are buying a rep. Don't expect it to have the same quality and finish of a gen for the amount of money you paid.
 

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Chill guys. My bad for not reading all 41 pages on this thread.

This is an internet forum everyone can say what they want. I'm cool with it.

Bad/Harsh/Good reply is better than none i guess ?

Have emailed Vac on doing a relume and the recessed bezel adjustment. Waiting for his reply.

Also still waiting for PT to reply whether the part i marked out which i suspect is a scratch.

thanks rubberj00 for speaking up :)

Lets move on ~
 

Rubberj00

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V4.1 have already got a thread for itself of up to 41 pages and together with many other threads with lots of photos and personal reviews in it. Does any of the V4.1 have recessed screw? No, I don't think so or at least I have not seen one after so many.

So how can one expect to get a V4.1 with recessed screw OOTB when the whole batch of it don't comes with just because the previous V3.5 have it? We all know that there will be slight different from batches to batches, so when this batch don't comes with it, is it an acceptable reason to reject the qc just because of a common flaw for the current batch?

I don't think it is reasonable reason to have a watch rejected just because of this.

Of course you should expect recessed screws OOTB - the v3.5 had them and it's from the same maker, it doesn't make sense why they aern't recessed. This is as much of a flaw as a wrong seconds hand to some people.

Only a couple of people have received the v4.1 so how you think that means all v4.1's won't have recessed screws is laughable.

It's 100% a reason to reject a watch if it's an issue for you. Personally i wouldn't reject it as it wouldn't bother me but certain things matter to different people - if the whole batch is like it then you'll have to wait for the next batch, don't see why you need to chime in and be a doosh.

Some of us don't have the time to sit on forums and read countless threads which to be honest are increasingly becoming more full of 'regulars' posting pointless shit & unhelpful comments which are not what a forum is meant for.
 

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Of course you should expect recessed screws OOTB - the v3.5 had them and it's from the same maker, it doesn't make sense why they aern't recessed. This is as much of a flaw as a wrong seconds hand to some people.

Only a couple of people have received the v4.1 so how you think that means all v4.1's won't have recessed screws is laughable.

It's 100% a reason to reject a watch if it's an issue for you. Personally i wouldn't reject it as it wouldn't bother me but certain things matter to different people - if the whole batch is like it then you'll have to wait for the next batch, don't see why you need to chime in and be a doosh.

Some of us don't have the time to sit on forums and read countless threads which to be honest are increasingly becoming more full of 'regulars' posting pointless shit & unhelpful comments which are not what a forum is meant for.

Wow.... sounds like your expectation is very high, maybe you should just go for gen so that every batch of the same model will be the exact finish and quality.

The reason why there is different between batch is because maker source parts, they don't make them themselves. Just like how they screw up the second batch of 111 v3 with a wrong index cutout. Make sense to you now?

Only a couple? You serious or you just don't bother to search and read before you speak?

FFS, this is not an issue, this is a common flaw as in all of the V4.1(at least for all that i see) have this flaw. So doesn't matter how many times you reject and how many times dealer change the watch for you, it will still be the same. You can't differentiate what is an issue and what is a common flaw?

I can't be bothered whether you have time or not, it is not my problem. If someone need help from others, first he have to help himself by doing his own homework. You don't have time to read but you have time to post questions and waiting patiently for answer? What kind of nonsense is that?

Buying a watch is just like buying a car, either you do enough homework to decide which one to go for or just go for anyone and don't complain.

Simple as that.
 

Rubberj00

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Wow.... sounds like your expectation is very high, maybe you should just go for gen so that every batch of the same model will be the exact finish and quality.

The reason why there is different between batch is because maker source parts, they don't make them themselves. Just like how they screw up the second batch of 111 v3 with a wrong index cutout. Make sense to you now?

Only a couple? You serious or you just don't bother to search and read before you speak?

FFS, this is not an issue, this is a common flaw as in all of the V4.1(at least for all that i see) have this flaw. So doesn't matter how many times you reject and how many times dealer change the watch for you, it will still be the same. You can't differentiate what is an issue and what is a common flaw?

I can't be bothered whether you have time or not, it is not my problem. If someone need help from others, first he have to help himself by doing his own homework. You don't have time to read but you have time to post questions and waiting patiently for answer? What kind of nonsense is that?

Buying a watch is just like buying a car, either you do enough homework to decide which one to go for or just go for anyone and don't complain.

Simple as that.

If you read my post you would see that I personally wouldn't reject a watch for the same issue but i know some would - i actually have a v4.1 on the way so that kind of flaws everything you have just tried to put me down about. I do my homework so i don't know why you are now reffering to me.

I have gens, the only reps i have are all modded as much possible - my expectations OTB are not high I just don't feel it necessary to talk down to others with less experience, his expectation for the bezel screws to be recessed is not unreasonable.

The v4.1 hasn't even been out for a month yet so you are getting extremely carried away with your 'facts'. As i said, if you did your homework and actually read my last post - if the v4.1 all have flush bezel screws and that's an issue for the OP then he'll need to wait until it's corrected, i don't suggest repeatedly reject QC pics.

I actually suggested something to help the OP unlike your useless remarks and condesending tone.

Then you try and make it personal against me - i suggest you put your dolly back in your pram and f.ck off you bitter old man.

Go get some fresh air.
 

carlton

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Of course you should expect recessed screws OOTB - the v3.5 had them and it's from the same maker, it doesn't make sense why they aern't recessed.

It's 100% a reason to reject a watch if it's an issue for you.

If you read my post you would see that I personally wouldn't reject a watch for the same issue but i know some would - i actually have a v4.1 on the way so that kind of flaws everything you have just tried to put me down about. I do my homework so i don't know why you are now reffering to me.

I have gens, the only reps i have are all modded as much possible - my expectations OTB are not high I just don't feel it necessary to talk down to others with less experience, his expectation for the bezel screws to be recessed is not unreasonable.

The v4.1 hasn't even been out for a month yet so you are getting extremely carried away with your 'facts'. As i said, if you did your homework and actually read my last post - if the v4.1 all have flush bezel screws and that's an issue for the OP then he'll need to wait until it's corrected, i don't suggest repeatedly reject QC pics.

I actually suggested something to help the OP unlike your useless remarks and condesending tone.

Then you try and make it personal against me - i suggest you put your dolly back in your pram and f.ck off you bitter old man.

Go get some fresh air.

Some would doesn't means it is an acceptable reason to reject it. Get the facts right before you started to jump out and speak up for others.:facepalm:

Who cares what you have? I can't really be bothered with it. If he would have read before ordering, he would have know that the flaw with the bezel screw of the current batch and if it does bother him then just wait and don't order.

By ordering one, that means that you have either read enough of what it is with the current batch and accept what it is or you don't care of whatever flaw as long as it is working. So to reject a current batch with common flaw is acceptable?
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It is out for a month or so but it is not only a couple like what you think if you bother to search and read, even in this thread there are already quite a few that he can refer to and decide whether it is good enough for him or not. If it is not, he should have wait until he see one that is good enough before he order if he is anal about his watches.

I made it personal against you? Really, who are you? I'm just speaking as the matter of fact to answer your question maybe you are too fragile and feel hurt from what i said..........:hehehe:

Whatever it is, i can't be bothered to argue with you and at least huhu84 is man enough to admit his bad. Maybe it is time for you to see a doctor or take your medicine.

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Chill guys. My bad for not reading all 41 pages on this thread.

This is an internet forum everyone can say what they want. I'm cool with it.

Bad/Harsh/Good reply is better than none i guess ?

Have emailed Vac on doing a relume and the recessed bezel adjustment. Waiting for his reply.

Also still waiting for PT to reply whether the part i marked out which i suspect is a scratch.

thanks rubberj00 for speaking up :)

Lets move on ~

You can recess the bezel screws yourself. It's a very simple mod that doesn't require you sending it away for 3 months. But the AP tool , or make one yourself. It's all you will need, and about 15 minutes of your day.

The reason you were given crap is that as you can see, this watch has been reviewed to no end on this thread, and many other ones. But it sounds like you understand now. Enjoy your watch, and don't sweat the small stuff.
 

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You can recess the bezel screws yourself. It's a very simple mod that doesn't require you sending it away for 3 months. But the AP tool , or make one yourself. It's all you will need, and about 15 minutes of your day.

The reason you were given crap is that as you can see, this watch has been reviewed to no end on this thread, and many other ones. But it sounds like you understand now. Enjoy your watch, and don't sweat the small stuff.




How is it done?
 

TESLA760

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There is a nut behind the bezel which holds the screw in place. You slowy and delicatly tighten the nut, and the screw will recess into the bezel. You have to do this slowly, as the materials used on these screws, nuts etc are cheap chinese shit.
 

techlogik

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So that's it? Just have a little tool to tighten that some, and it will pull the screw down below the bezel?

Wow....what are people using to do this if home-made? Otherwise, where can you get a tool that does this job specifically?

Thx
 

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You can recess the bezel screws yourself. It's a very simple mod that doesn't require you sending it away for 3 months. But the AP tool , or make one yourself. It's all you will need, and about 15 minutes of your day.

The reason you were given crap is that as you can see, this watch has been reviewed to no end on this thread, and many other ones. But it sounds like you understand now. Enjoy your watch, and don't sweat the small stuff.

+ 1000...but I would say 16 min lol
Just take out the rubber rings and all will be fine, they are in because Chinese cant drill 8 holes with the same depth....more lol... and there is no problem beeing waterproofed


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