New Sub up on Toros - Noob V2?

[P4GTR]

Dan,

I would recommend buying one before you go on about the gapped out end lugs. I posted my picture, but comparing pictures on a flat computer screen is the real moot point. Lol

Members like me? What kind is that? Dramatize iteration after iteration? What are you talking about? I held back and haven't posted a single thing about the latest "iteration" of this watch until I owned it. I took a chance and sprung for this one as I heard from a good friend who actually frequents China and knows most of the dealers by first name (Thier real ones) that this would be a good one. Well, it just so happens he was right. It is a good one.

What bothers me is the endless dribble from people who don't own the watches they post about because they either deduced their "flaw" from comparing magnified pictures on a flat computer screen or heard from some one who heard from someone the watch is "Flawed"

The truth of the matter is I have spent quite a bit of money on watches (Both Gen and Rep) and I enjoy it. What I am not, is the guy who thinks for $250.00, I better get a a perfect 1:1 copy of my beloved $10,000.00 watch. I do this for a hobby and to have fun. You're getting way worked up over this brother.

As a general rule, would you rather get information on something you intend to spend your hard earned $$ on from someone who has never seen the item in real life and has no experience with it other than what they read on the net, or would you rather take advice from someone who has actually owned it and or had held it in his own hands?

Pretty basic stuff.

BTW - You were a lot nicer to me when I patiently waited for the Hornback strap you made me for my AP Diver One of the best I have, I might add.

Come on bud, you can afford it. Spend the money on the watch and see for yourself. My mom told me not to trust what they say on the interweb LOL!!!!


Oh, and here is that shot of the watch with the gapped out end links. Or so I have been told....



Maybe me and Al just got lucky...

You seem to have picked me out of the bunch, saying I am wrong to criticize that which I have not seen in person, and the flaws that -to me- were a let down. I try to choose what I say very carefully. The flaws that I see, are in fact there, but I understand what you are trying to say. I'm sure the quality fit and finish is great. For what it is, and for it's positive attributes, I get it.

I think some easy fixes were ignored yet again which lead to my disappointment. All of the subs have flaws, and if I were to buy one for my collection I would give this one a shot. I would however, be pissed that the value capsized a few months later when V3 gets released... :beatahorse: it's the factory wanton disregard that pisses me off.

 

[Jake48]

You seem to have picked me out of the bunch, saying I am wrong to criticize that which I have not seen in person, and the flaws that -to me- were a let down. I try to choose what I say very carefully. The flaws that I see, are in fact there, but I understand what you are trying to say. I'm sure the quality fit and finish is great. For what it is, and for it's positive attributes, I get it.

I think some easy fixes were ignored yet again which lead to my disappointment. All of the subs have flaws, and if I were to buy one for my collection I would give this one a shot. I would however, be pissed that the value capsized a few months later when V3 gets released... :beatahorse: it's the factory wanton disregard that pisses me off.

For what it's worth, I did not pick you out. If I pick anyone out I quote them.

And yeah, I understand what you are saying about the factories, but let's face it, these guys aren't making watches because they take great pride in the reputation of the centuries old brand image they have developed. They sell fake watches because they want our money. I really doubt they feel the need to get it exactly right and truthfully, as picky as a lot of the Rep collectors have become, I don't know that they will ever meet the standards some expect for their $200.00 knockoff.

Getting back to the basics, this is one he!! of a watch and I am amazed that they can produce it for only $400.00!

 

[Capt. Obvious]

QC pics arrived,

The dial is not photographed directly, and i cannot see, if the

date magnifier window and the pearl dot are aligned.


D.

Looks fine to me!!!!

 

[Om3ga_guy]

We've touched on this a few times already but I figured I would post this photo anyway...I was flipping through gen classifieds and saw this.

Note the "300m". The "0" are more like "o" similar to the V2 rep. So the v2 dial is in fact correct.

 

[Om3ga_guy]

QC pics arrived,

The dial is not photographed directly, and i cannot see, if the

date magnifier window and the pearl dot are aligned.


D.

These QC photos look great. The only issue I see and it's typical with all the V2's is the thin SEL gap at 5 o'clock. It's not horrible but the gap is there.

FWIW my last TC had a similar gap...

 

[tom_cat]

i received email from toro this evening saying the watch has been already shipped since last sunday, WTH?? which means he didnt actually swap me with another watch and just sent me this off centered date watch?? I replied him straight away why didnt you swap with me new set of watch and then he just "POOF" no reply, nothing and all gone silence again. guys help me out look at my qc pics agian see whether I am correct or not and how can I fix this and where can i find the correct date set??

on positive side, at least watch is on the way already and now at custom.

 

[mir36]

I received mine today. Dial alignment to the engraving is a bit off. The crystal is probably -1 degree off alignment, not fully centered on the date window. Am I happy with this?



Yes!

I've owned several gens: E-serial SeaDweller, Vintage 5513, Tag Monaco, IWC 3717 and several Sinns.

I like this Sub C alot.

 

[GeDi]

My qc pics from Ryan.

 

[GeDi]

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[d4m.test]

That looks amazing!

 

[teoulennon]

I'd be happy w that!
Still not sure what to think of the hulk, it's hard to tell whether I'd like it from pics.

 

[designerx]

I have posted pictures of this watch. If anyone is curious just check this link out:

http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/review-pictures-rolex-153004

 

[teoulennon]

We need more wrist shots in this thread, let's seem them!

 

[Capt. Obvious]

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That looks fantastic!

 

[set2374]

Wow, I have just gone through this thread in more detail and I am really surprised (although I shouldn't be) at some of the nits some members are picking out with this watch. I think some of you guys found a couple of pictures of gens and then compared them to the rep and are drawing the wrong conclusions--which are wrong. First of all, Gen makers change their watches in small ways all the time without any fan fair. The same model can have 4 or 5 dial variations over the course of its production life, with most people never noticing the changes. Because of these subtle changes, some people get very confused when looking at pictures and point out these purported flaws in a rep. Guys, chill the f--k out and do some homework before you start to tear a new watch to pieces. Some of you really have no idea what they are talking about. This is a stellar looking piece with some very minor flaws that no one would ever really notice in the real world. That said, there is NOTHING wrong with the dial on this rep, namely the spacing between the 1000ft = 300m

The dial (which has been critiqued quite a bit) looks great to me. Unfortunately, the hour hand in your pictures is covering the print in OP's pictures, but there has been quite a bit of complaints about the spacing between in the 1000ft = 300m. I want to put this to rest now:

Here's the a gen from Rolex's first production run, which began in 2010. These dials were used in watches produced in 2010 into 2011:

More recent production runs made a few changes to the dial spacing, which made it look a little less cramped. These new dials were used from mid-2011 (along side the original dial) through the present. This is a picture of a updated dial (not the change in the size of the "f" in 1000ft and the spacing between the "= 300 m"):

Finally, here's the Noob v2:

In my eyes, the V2 dial looks like a great copy of the original 116610 dial from 2010-11. I would guess that noob bought a preowned 116610LN that came from an early production run. That's what the copied and they did a good job of it. Second, there is some variation in thickness on the marker surrounds in various versions of the gen. These surrounds look fine for the first gen sub-c dieal. The pearl also looks spot on.

Real flaws, as well noted, the engravings on the bezel insert could be a bit deeper and, of course, should have platinum paint (easy mod), but this is very hard to see on the wrist. The bezel fonts look good to me though (but could be a smidge thicker). On the other hand, think noob also did a very good job getting the bezel teeth right.

In the end, it's all about how the way the watch feels anyway. If this is anything like the Exp2, it's a winner.

 

[PoptheC]

Isn't the thick ring on hour marker a big tell?!

 

[set2374]

Isn't the thick ring on hour marker a big tell?!

I don't think so. I am not even sure it's actually thicker, but if it is... it's franctions of a millimeter. Who the heck can see that without a loupe in the real world.

 

[benjji]

I don't think so. I am not even sure it's actually thicker, but if it is... it's franctions of a millimeter. Who the heck can see that without a loupe in the real world.

Yes Set, you're rigth the dial is not a problem ok.. but wath about the print on bezel ?? number "2" and "3" specially, totally different from gen.

I believe this is a serious defect

 

[set2374]

Yes Set, you're rigth the dial is not a problem ok.. but wath about the print on bezel ?? number "2" and "3" specially, totally different from gen.

I believe this is a serious defect

I agree the bezel engraving can be better. It should be thicker and deeper (that's what she said!). I think the font on the 2 and 3 would be fine if the engraving was thicker. On this point, the BP bezel insert is a little better. That said, it's still not a big tell in my eyes.

It the build quality and construction is anything think like that pictured in the photos on Angus's site, this watch bezel is going to be super smooth with a gen like click. The feel of the bezel click, finish of the bracelet and clasp etc. That is what makes a watch a quality piece or piece of sh!t. The QC from BP is very spotty. I expect this v2 to be light years better. Obviously, I can't pass judgment until I have one in my hands.

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[Capt. Obvious]

I agree the bezel engraving can be better. It should be thicker and deeper (that's what she said!).

DIIIIIING ("That's what SHE said bell")