New Released Clean 3285 Movement(from Dandong) Compared With GEN and Shanghai 3285 Movement

[ghostte]

I asked Steve at One Watches do open them for me given I'm ordering the Pepsi, Batman, and the Sprite all in the same order

 

[dogwood]

Trustytime said will avoid the factory warranty.

Hmmm... my guess is that's just Andrew's way of saying "I'm busy, please stop pestering me with custom QC requests".

 

[promax01]

Hmmm... my guess is that's just Andrew's way of saying "I'm busy, please stop pestering me with custom QC requests".

Thanks for let me know lol

 

[promax01]

@CTime when do you think VSF will release a version of the 3285, if ever? Is there any info or even rumours you guys have heard regarding VSF releasing GMT models with their own clone?

From Xing_patrick

Today, I will bring you some news about vsf and cleanf gmt.

About Dandong 3285: I have been following the progress of the Dandong 3285 movement since November 22, because VS wants me to help them complete the 3285 hand and obtain a sample, but it has issues and the datewheel cannot run properly. Fortunately, the Dandong factory repaired the movement before the Spring Festival. According to vsf's description, the vsfgmt with 3285 movement will be released after the Spring Festival, and I am looking forward to it, but Dandong sold the movement to the highest bidder factory, clean.

If the factory purchases in large quantities, Shanghai 3186 is about 320 to 400 rmb, Dandong 3186 is about 500 rmb, which is also the price negotiated between vsf and Dandong previously. Unfortunately, clean was willing to purchase the first two batches of 3285 movements at a price of 650 rmb. As a result, vsfgmt was delayed again, and clean released an expensive gmt.

Perhaps my post is not objective enough because I created a batman dial baezl hand for vsf, and I prefer vsf. However, it can be determined that the profit of Clean is too high and unreasonable, and Clean will not release the issues of Fix products soon, unless there are competitors: 20 11 vsf has released the Hulk, and zzv3 has reduced the price of the new CleanfHulk and vs. (The same factory as Clean) 22 03 btf has released Daytona, and Clean has updated dials and crows. 22 06 c+released gmt, and clean updated crystal to no milking.Clean knows about product defects, but like Noob, they want to make money through upgrades.

Vsf gmt still has a chance, if they can purchase the third batch of movements, don't be too pessimistic. here are some video about vsf GMT

 

[GrandmasterChime]

Hopefully this means the vsf will have a xing pepsi insert instead of the clean

 

[alexcast]

Great thank you for making this post I will get one

 

[CTime]

CTIME, do you know if Clean will offer the GMT II Meteorite Dial with Dandong 3285 movement

Yes they will. it's on the schedule

 

[CTime]

Question I am about to order what is the best way to confirm that the Clean being shipped actually has the DD movement inside?
I guess ask the dealer to open up the case and show the movement?

there are times where you order say V2 of a model and you get V1 QC

If you are sure it's from Clean, then just see from the qc video if there is a jumping hands problem

 

[CTime]

Trustytime said will avoid the factory warranty.

It has waterproof rubber circle in the case back, if you make sure you tighten it back then it's the same. We will only ask our watch guy to open it up. That you can still ask for the warranty

 

[CTime]

I know it's a long shot, but any chance of seeing this part's other side? @CTime

Really wondering about that too - but i bet its not updates. Just wait for v2 where speed bumps arent anymore or then maybe v3 when winding issue is t anymore;p

I have updated it!

 

[derjenigewelcher]

I have updated it!

You are the best!

@KJ2020 seems we have a imprpovement here in quality of this part. Nice!

Would like to see this in the VS3235 also

 

[ghostte]

is VSF > Clean for GMTs other than the movement which is exclusive still to Clean?

 

[opusagredi]

Thanks for this great post with the detailed comparison. I love it. Fantastic service from you.

 

[CTime]

is VSF > Clean for GMTs other than the movement which is exclusive still to Clean?

We will do a comparison on the watch details when the next batch is released

 

[KJ2020]

This is Clean GMT-Ⅱwith bran new 3285 movement, they have fixed the jumping hands when adjusting. Also the video of dismantling this movement will be sent here in few days, don’t forget to come back~

[edit]
I made to re-photograph the following pictures

Thanks so much, you rock!

 

[derjenigewelcher]

is VSF > Clean for GMTs other than the movement which is exclusive still to Clean?

VS Factory havent released a Rolex GMT yet - they have to wait 1 or 2 more batches of movements beeing released cause those first ones are exclusively for CLEAN.

 

[big_polarbear]

VS Factory havent released a Rolex GMT yet - they have to wait 1 or 2 more batches of movements beeing released cause those first ones are exclusively for CLEAN.

Team VSF here. Let’s wait and see if they can do even better

 

[CTime]

About Dandong 3285: I have been following the progress of the Dandong 3285 movement since November 22, because VS wants me to help them complete the 3285 hand and obtain a sample, but it has issues and the datewheel cannot run properly. Fortunately, the Dandong factory repaired the movement before the Spring Festival.

If the factory purchases in large quantities, Shanghai 3186 is about 320 to 400 rmb, Dandong 3186 is about 500 rmb, which is also the price negotiated between vsf and Dandong previously. Unfortunately, clean was willing to purchase the first two batches of 3285 movements at a price of 650 rmb. As a result, vsfgmt was delayed again, and clean released an expensive gmt.

Vsf gmt still has a chance, if they can purchase the third batch of movements, don't be too pessimistic.

Clean signed the contract in June 2022, and the factory delayed until recently due to the calendar problem. Exclusive means no one else would have the right to sell 3258 unless Clean ask to. The competition between factories is not that we can easily guess. Clean paid a huge amount of money for the exclusive sell, then the price should be more accordingly, I understand that. People get what they pay for.

 

[mhrboy]

Sorry Guys, I don’t want to go OT but I know that VSF already released first batch for GMT but they assembled VR3186 engraved 3285…here are the pictures from my dealer

 

[ghostte]

VS Factory havent released a Rolex GMT yet - they have to wait 1 or 2 more batches of movements beeing released cause those first ones are exclusively for CLEAN.

I guess I specifically was asking, are VSF watches generally better than their Clean counterparts? If so I may delay on my order