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New PPF 5712 with PP240 Super Clone.....

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Actually this specific dealer has high mark up TD pricing
If that's the price with him expect it 200$ cheaper from most NonTD

However with Andiot there is no reason for one to go with Non Td, he has the cheapest prices with the TD piece of mind
Yes, biao has reached TD pricing without any forum backing his products. The way it goes with popular non TD.

I think what I mean to say is 4000 Y for PPF combined with 2000 Y for the custom parts then 6000Y is an accurate price if that makes sense
 
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Yes, biao has reached TD pricing without any forum backing his products. The way it goes with popular non TD.

I think what I mean to say is 4000 Y for PPF combined with 2000 Y for the custom parts then 6000Y is an accurate price if that makes sense
Well crazy part here is they literally say it’s the CNC case but the CNC case alone is still $800 even from nontd, that’s craziest to me
 

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Well crazy part here is they literally say it’s the CNC case but the CNC case alone is still $800 even from nontd, that’s craziest to me
I think it's rep marketing. All watch cases are made from CNC.... so it's technically true. PPF case is made from CNC machining. CNC stands for computer numerical control.

We've come to associate "CNC case" in the forum with a custom made case, but it's not so.
 

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I think it's rep marketing. All watch cases are made from CNC.... so it's technically true. PPF case is made from CNC machining. CNC stands for computer numerical control.

We've come to associate "CNC case" in the forum with a custom made case, but it's not so.
Oh 100%. But the case they show has the “beak” on the lugs exactly like the custom cases- is my point
 
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Yeah I agree, or if you want to dip into the 5712 I think this is the best ootb at only $100 more than a TD price. Really insane value tbh
 
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Anyone know anything more about this release? Thoughts?


Looks like they just took a PPF and threw in an SW dial?

The first (dealer) image is of a real watch, they've literally copy-pasted it off Patek's website...

In the next 3 images, there seems to be a mis-match between the hands and markers (hands look very white). As others have mentioned, pinion caps look awful.

Price is in-line with what you'd expect from a non-TD. If it were my money, I would go with a modded piece or something from a trustier source. Just my $0.02.
 
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Interesting experience this Saturday to share - I went out for lunch with my Spongebob modded 5712:




On the way back, we passed by a watch boutique and got to see a 5726. My wife thought the rep 5712 was on par with the gen 5726 😂
To be honest, I had to agree!





Some thoughts:
Spongebob's casework is truly comparable to gen. This modified SW dial is actually amazingly close in colour and sparkle to the gen dial! SB did an outstanding job getting rid off and upgrading the crappy overly-white SW hands/ markers! In person, these looked identical to gen.
Any slight differences in colour you're seeing here are really just due to the 5726 being behind a glass case with a bright light shining on it, plus my camera automatically adjusting the exposure/ colours/ white balance as I moved it around. In reality they were hard to tell apart! It's amazing that you can have a watch this close to the $100k gen for under $3k USD.
 
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I've edited the photo. Since the gen grey dial is cheaper than the blue one I was thinking to use it for a future franken

Very obvious in the second photo 😂

I always thought the grey on bracelet would have been a good combo, not sure why Patek never chose to make one like this.
 
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Looks like they just took a PPF and threw in an SW dial?

The first (dealer) image is of a real watch, they've literally copy-pasted it off Patek's website...

In the next 3 images, there seems to be a mis-match between the hands and markers (hands look very white). As others have mentioned, pinion caps look awful.

Price is in-line with what you'd expect from a non-TD. If it were my money, I would go with a modded piece or something from a trustier source. Just my $0.02.
This isn’t a build by a non td it’s just another modding factory, you could buy this from any td.
I am guessing this factory doesn’t really use the ppf as base. Nothing on it looks like stock ppf or sw or at least they modify every part.

The midcase is custom for sure, I don’t know about the bezel but i think it looks better.
The hands are best i have seen from the thickness, way thinner than sw and stock.
The dial isn’t sw but looks very close to it with different markers.
The moonphase isn’t perfect but it’s one of the better modded ones.
The back is engraved, it’s one of the early engravings so not really good but it is at least engraved.
The pinion caps are good, only the one at the power reserve is really bad.

I have ordered one with a pinion cap replacement for the power reserve cost me 60$ extra all in all around 800$ from a td. For this price you have amazing value, a similar build with custom case and sw parts would cost close to 2000$ from a td.

Of course it’s no comparison to the sb modded ones you have but it was more than 3x the price and its more marketed towards people that just have the money for a stock ppf and for 50-100$ more that’s a no brainer i would even get this over a sw modded ones honestly.
 
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This looks great, but for Patek snobs (like myself) they’ll know the grey dial for the 5712G should be on a leather strap. Is that a gen handset?
All is gen . I dress all black for occasions for example. A grey dial will work better for me regardless of rep or gen
 
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I mean nothing says you can’t buy a bracelet. If you’re £80k into a watch I doubt a bit extra for the bracelet is going to stop someone.

This grey dial is only available with a white gold case and leather strap for around £50k. Patek won't sell you a separate WG bracelet for this, so this watch would never exist in reality unless someone were to put a gen case/ dial on an aftermarket bracelet (or a gen dial in a fully rep build like this).
 
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