New PPF 5712 with PP240 Super Clone.....

[fletch512]

Anyone bought from AMOWatch before? I know they're not a TD, just curious to see if anyone has any experience to share.

I bought a BBR RM035 from them, and happy with the transaction. QR pics arrived fairly quickly, I think maybe 3-4 days. The pics were good quality, and they also provided a video. Surprisingly, they shipped using Fedex to the states, for the same price TDs around here charge for snail post (I believe it was $30). Watch arrived 3 days after I received notice of shipment. Communication was in good English, and they responded quickly to questions. I was worried about not being able to order through the website, but overall they exceeded expectations.

 

[Reaps]

Wanted to check - is the "loose" minute hand still an issue? Or have they fixed that?

 

[solexz]

Wanted to check - is the "loose" minute hand still an issue? Or have they fixed that?

Fixed a long time ago, was a batch issue

 

[Reaps]

Fixed a long time ago, was a batch issue

I have a 5712 with this issue. How much is it worth ya think?

 

[eravela]

Hi everyone, I wanted to buy a 5712 PPF v4 from CTime, I read many pages here on the forum about it, especially about the possible modifications to make to make it as similar as possible to the GEN, I asked CTime directly if they could make these modifications, they said yes, with SW dial, hands and moon phases modified we are around 400 dollars. Currently what modifications do you recommend? Are these enough or is there something else that can be done? Thanks

 

[Wingding1984]

See if they can also do the crown recess mod. The moonphase and dial are the more important elements though, you'd do the hands anyway if you were doing them. Custom movement plate engraving is a "nice to have", but I'm not sure it's worth the extra bucks.

 

[solexz]

See if they can also do the crown recess mod. The moonphase and dial are the more important elements though, you'd do the hands anyway if you were doing them. Custom movement plate engraving is a "nice to have", but I'm not sure it's worth the extra bucks.

You don’t need to recess the v2 and up. That was a common v1 mod, totally not needed anymore.

 

[solexz]

Hi everyone, I wanted to buy a 5712 PPF v4 from CTime, I read many pages here on the forum about it, especially about the possible modifications to make to make it as similar as possible to the GEN, I asked CTime directly if they could make these modifications, they said yes, with SW dial, hands and moon phases modified we are around 400 dollars. Currently what modifications do you recommend? Are these enough or is there something else that can be done? Thanks

If you’re trying to get as close to Gen as possible speak to SpongeBob, just be aware his builds are 2500+, but this gets you basically as close as you can get without a franken. If you don’t want to do that go to chazingtime as he has modified builds you can pick and choose from.

What you need if you’re trying to get close to Gen:

Pinion caps
Dial
Moonphase
Hands
Engraved movement bridge plates
First end link mod


SpongeBob does quite a few extras to bring it beyond the above. But the above can be done by most TDs

 

[Yachtmaster_Chris]

If you’re trying to get as close to Gen as possible speak to SpongeBob, just be aware his builds are 2500+, but this gets you basically as close as you can get without a franken. If you don’t want to do that go to chazingtime as he has modified builds you can pick and choose from.

What you need if you’re trying to get close to Gen:

Pinion caps
Dial
Moonphase
Hands
Engraved movement bridge plates
First end link mod


SpongeBob does quite a few extras to bring it beyond the above. But the above can be done by most TDs

I just received a PPF v4 5712, I don't think the "first end link mod" is necessary either? As the first end link is flexible. Wasn't it the case before that the first end link used to not be able to move?

 

[solexz]

I just received a PPF v4 5712, I don't think the "first end link mod" is necessary either? As the first end link is flexible. Wasn't it the case before that the first end link used to not be able to move?

I dont think anyone is aware of this change, have a pic of how the bracelet slopes? Like show a side view of the case with the bracelet, not on a wrist

 

[Yachtmaster_Chris]

I dont think anyone is aware of this change, have a pic of how the bracelet slopes? Like show a side view of the case with the bracelet, not on a wrist

Rule 16

 

[andre233]

Sorry if this is an ignorant question, but how the hell is this thing called 1:1 if it says 41mm x 8.8mm while the original is 40mm x 8.5mm? Is there a difference in the way it's being measured??

 

[Lemans24h]

Sorry if this is an ignorant question, but how the hell is this thing called 1:1 if it says 41mm x 8.8mm while the original is 40mm x 8.5mm? Is there a difference in the way it's being measured??

I totally get you. In my experience 1:1 written on any TD site is to be taken with a large pinch of salt.

My understanding with the 5712 was that diameters and overall dimensions were very accurate but thickness is the one difference, gen thickness can be achieved through modification.

The main issue with odd shaped watches such as this is where do you measure them repeatably to get the right diameter on a non circular shape.

 

[Reaps]

Ppf now comes with engraved plates

 

[BIONONE]

Ppf now comes with engraved plates

and man... they're still ugly

Better than the laser-engraved plates but the poor quality of the cotes de Geneva really make it look like tin foil...

 

[rubot1k]

What you need if you’re trying to get close to Gen:

Pinion caps
Dial
Moonphase
Hands
Engraved movement bridge plates
First end link mod

If i want something that close to gen in a basic manner, some minor flaws could be ok, like errors that could only be seen here in upclose zoomed up HD micro shots, are these options enough?

 

[Mjh2k4]

I currently have a build with Popup right now with these exact mods and crystal. l'll let you know!

 

[Mikolee123]

I currently have a build with Popup right now with these exact mods and crystal. l'll let you know!

curious to see this build. its my understanding that pop up will be ordering these from the factory together with these mods? Are each of his watches custom or OOTB with a dedicated watchsmith doing the mods? thanks

 

[solexz]

curious to see this build. its my understanding that pop up will be ordering these from the factory together with these mods? Are each of his watches custom or OOTB with a dedicated watchsmith doing the mods? thanks

Popup has a watchmaker to do his modding for him, but he has contacts in the industry to get parts. If you're just getting a non-modded watch hes like any other TD.

 

[Mikolee123]

Popup has a watchmaker to do his modding for him, but he has contacts in the industry to get parts. If you're just getting a non-modded watch hes like any other TD.

thats good to know. to quote your mods in a previous post

"What you need if you’re trying to get close to Gen:

Pinion caps
Dial
Moonphase
Hands
Engraved movement bridge plates
First end link mod"

all of those and case thinning close to the gen thickness. or is the thickness already improved in the latest iteration of the 5712 from xxx factory ?
im not updated at all hehe