Omg as a new member like i am if i continue to ready all around maybe i never Will buy the First rep ... Yes anyway if the td full refund the buyer of course we hard less to talk(write).
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Negative experience with ChazingTime - falsified timegrapher pics, non-running watch shipped.
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Does anyone here consider the staff who took care of the so-called "QC pics" don't know shit about Lift Angles of a balance? I'll be amazed if they know what is a balance...
I am not talking about the TD, I am talking about that specific staff who handles the DC and took the photos if the TD is not a one-man-band.
I am not talking about the TD, I am talking about that specific staff who handles the DC and took the photos if the TD is not a one-man-band.
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Don’t understand your point… whatever happened, it is handled in a very bad way by the « TD » who said : I fired the guy and we credited the amount the OP paid for the watchsmith who was not able to repair the watch…
Mistakes happen, send a broken watch could happen, but how it is being handled shouldn’t be from a TD here… even if till now it is damaging the reputation, hope it will be resolved quickly. TD is just losing more possible customer until this is resolve…
I don't understand your point either. I am simply saying the guy who took the photos doesn't know the technical details at all.
By all means, keep roasting the TD, I have no comment anyway since I have never bought anything from them and probably never will.
They obviously knew enough to cover up the time graph or someone told them do it for the pic. Either way it falls upon the TD who hired the staff and should teach them how to use the machine properly.
Well, I doubt. Yes, from the photo he covered the light. He might know “it will get things moving faster by covering this light”, but why covering it, he only knows “the customer will have complaints” but what is it, he might not know.They obviously knew enough to cover up the time graph or someone told them do it for the pic. Either way it falls upon the TD who hired the staff and should teach them how to use the machine properly.
This is from my experience working with Chinese guys all these years. The might know what to do, but seldom know what is the reason behind.
I'm almost inclined to agree with you, except they knew enough to put blu tak over the red led so you don't notice the TG is paused
Anyways, feck the QC staff, staffs performance should be monitored by the boss, I don't expect the boss to know anything about watches, he just sells units, whether they are wristwatches, godawful car parts than don't work etc etc but the staff should know their job
Same here, I've never bought anything either, main reason being when I looked at them last December their prices were noticeably dearer than other TD's ..............
For that sort of price I'd expect way better than this current shit show
The last time I heard of one of the TD's minions being fired for some kind of misrepresentation it was a 10 year old! So I think this is a fair point?
I couldn’t agree more. The guy clearly did something wrong - no doubt about that. What I doubt is whether he actually understands the mechanism behind it. All he knows is that “doing this makes things move faster,” so he covered the light to produce a nice-looking result, just like every other rep’s result. If you ask him what those readings indicate, he’ll likely only know that “they won’t RL this watch,” but have no clue what “Lift Angle” even means.
In China, employers don’t need a solid reason to fire someone, especially in cases like this. What would you even say to the Labour Department if you believe this termination is unfair?
And just to be clear, I’m not arguing, nor am I taking the TD’s side. I’m simply pointing out that the person who possibly committed this “crime” doesn’t need to be fully knowledgeable. They don’t need to know anything about horology. All they need to know is that they can do their job “better” by covering up whatever needs to be covered and getting the task done.
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I would, just as I'd expect the guy that sells cars to know about cars.
skinny_but_not_limp_wrist
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came back to this thread today expecting ppl to be posting months-old QC pics showing playdoh no-playdoh on the led light. My own QC from this TD check out - but very old at 2/17/23.
Actually (as often happens) I knew what I meant, but wasn't clear in my text, you are of course quite correct
What I should have said is "the watch seller likely doesn't know anything about the real technical aspects of the watches" , such as the correlation between Lift angles and Amplitude
Obviously one would hope he knew makes models and specs such as Quartz, Self Winding, 24 hr GMT, Blue Lume etc, much the same as your car analogy ...........
Most Car salesmen don't know how a Lambda sensor controls fuelling, or Camshaft sensor is very important so that the ECU knows which cylinder is on it's firing stroke, but he knows which model has lane assist, active body control, etc
Apologies for me being a confusing old bastard, if it makes y'all feel better I confuse meself sometimes
I have found that some really good car salesmen know the least about the product they are selling. If you ask if it has a particular feature they tell you it has whether or not it actually does.Most Car salesmen don't know how a Lambda sensor controls fuelling, or Camshaft sensor is very important so that the ECU knows which cylinder is on it's firing stroke, but he knows which model has lane assist, active body control, etc
Years ago I was in a BMW main dealer. The model I was looking at came in 231 BHP or 215 BHP. I asked what the BHP was. The salesman confidently told me it was 170 BHP. I asked him if he was sure as I said I did not think it came in a 170BHP version? He said he would ask his manager. So he came back and said he was wrong. It was even better as it was 190 BHP. I thanked him for his time and walked out. That is just one of many examples.
I know another guy who is one of the top car salesman in the country. I can assure he has no clue about cars or their technical features.
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Well hell. I love the watch, but Chazing has apparently been doing this for a while. This is from May 2024. My watch but the same exact timegrapher photo. Of course, I have no idea what I was looking at, so I saw nothing wrong.
Yours are from May and the OP's are from June, practically the same period.
Well hell. I love the watch, but Chazing has apparently been doing this for a while. This is from May 2024. My watch but the same exact timegrapher photo. Of course, I have no idea what I was looking at, so I saw nothing wrong.
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Agreed. Sales relies on emotion not facts for most buyers. Unless your customer shows they're knowledgable and no nonsense. But thr majority of people aren't lol.