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Clean Factory vs BT Factory - 116500 Panda Daytona - Updated

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to be honest the only reason people are afraid of SH is because SH movements (not necessarily this one) used to have issues a year or so ago. Its just a reputational thing, for now the only thing that can be said is that the movement is new and untested, just like the SA once was.
i so far have not heard any member actually owning the SH having issues. The ZF version itself is absolutely phenomenal with its case shape and dial/bezel.
That's because they all sold the watch already lol
 

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It’s true what they say - you get what you pay for! I got my QC images back from InTime and they are not very thorough haha. He didn’t even include video of the watch running or a timegrapher. Couldn’t help but laugh when unopened up the email.
Here is the album.

I’ve reached out and asked for more photos/angles of the watch face, timegrapher, and a video of the chrono.
 

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It’s true what they say - you get what you pay for! I got my QC images back from InTime and they are not very thorough haha. He didn’t even include video of the watch running or a timegrapher. Couldn’t help but laugh when unopened up the email.
Here is the album.

I’ve reached out and asked for more photos/angles of the watch face, timegrapher, and a video of the chrono.
Bad photos dont mean that the watch is bad, in the end it is in the range of 700s dolars without offer. i thing it will be perfect, movement aside.
 

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Bad photos dont mean that the watch is bad, in the end it is in the range of 700s dolars without offer. i thing it will be perfect, movement aside.
Agreed, the watch might be perfect, but there is no way to tell from just these photos. Without a timegraph and a video of the watch functioning normally, I don't think what I was sent meets the criteria for a QC. More photos of the watch itself at different angles is more of a nice to have.

For what it's worth, I have looked at a lot of QC posts and I don't think I have ever seen one this low effort. Not trying to go after InTime, but it seems like they have a reputation for this.
 

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Finaly i order two ZF daytonas white dial to Hont. I think for the current price its worth it.
Im waiting for QC. :)
 
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Finaly i order two ZF daytonas white dial to Hont. I think for the current price its worth it.
Im waiting for QC. :)
That’s what I call commitment, now you have all the parts in case needed in the future.
You could also wear one each wrist.

pS
Did the same with some watches :))))
 
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You bought two? What did hont charge you
598 each with shiping and a case. I have confident in Hont thats why i went with him. I bought two becouse my brother wants it too, Im planing to give one of them to him but yes, in case i need a sparepart i will ask him for it haha. I hope this doesnt happen.
Now im waiting for QCs, will you help me to GL o RL them?? :))
 

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598 each with shiping and a case. I have confident in Hont thats why i went with him. I bought two becouse my brother wants it too, Im planing to give one of them to him but yes, in case i need a sparepart i will ask him for it haha. I hope this doesnt happen.
Now im waiting for QCs, will you help me to GL o RL them?? :))
Nice. I can try. Personally, I use the reptimeqc reddit for my QC and would suggest you do the same if you want more eyes on the watch.

RWI doesn’t seem to allow general QC posts unless you are asking about a very specific issue. I am new here but maybe others can weigh in?

 
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Curious to hear opinions from others as to which of the two (black or white) is closest to gen. For the black dial it's pretty apparent that CF V3 is the overwhelming favorite, whereas for the panda there's a half and half split between those who prefer BTF and those who prefer CF V3 (with deep xtal of course).

I know the CF vs. BTF (and now ZF) argument has been belabored upon within hundreds of threads, if you had to pick one model for the sake of getting closest to gen regardless of black vs. white, what would you pick?
 

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Curious to hear opinions from others as to which of the two (black or white) is closest to gen. For the black dial it's pretty apparent that CF V3 is the overwhelming favorite, whereas for the panda there's a half and half split between those who prefer BTF and those who prefer CF V3 (with deep xtal of course).

I know the CF vs. BTF (and now ZF) argument has been belabored upon within hundreds of threads, if you had to pick one model for the sake of getting closest to gen regardless of black vs. white, what would you pick?
Come on man. Just read this thread.
 

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Come on man. Just read this thread.
Apologies wasn't trying to be spoon-fed info - I read through the thread quickly and missed some key info. Original question was primarily around the closest to gen when just considering dial + crystal combo between the three (OOTB BTF panda, CF V3 panda with deep xtal, CF V3 black dial with deep xtal)
 

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Apologies wasn't trying to be spoon-fed info - I read through the thread quickly and missed some key info. Original question was primarily around the closest to gen when just considering dial + crystal combo between the three (OOTB BTF panda, CF V3 panda with deep xtal, CF V3 black dial with deep xtal)
It's an open debate. Both have flaws, you just have to choose for yourself which set of flaws you can live with. I personally went with a ZF because it has the best looks, but the flaw there is an unproven movement.
 
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It's an open debate. Both have flaws, you just have to choose for yourself which set of flaws you can live with. I personally went with a ZF because it has the best looks, but the flaw there is an unproven movement.
It's the tried & true statement of replica watch collecting: You just have to choose for yourself which set of flaws you can live with.

I will say this: It's pretty difficult to pass up the ZF version considering how dam good it looks and that some dealers are offering it for a little over $500.
 

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Really enjoyed reading through every thread here, the consensus on Reddit forums however mentioned about the CF v1 dial being superior than the current v3.

I was about to pull the trigger on second hand for a reasonable price 500 usd ish? But having read through this, I’m conflicted between CF V1 and BTF. I’m mostly concerned about the aesthetic parts and overall built quality.

Any comment or suggestion regarding CF V1 vs BTF would be really appreciated thankssss🥹
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Really enjoyed reading through every thread here, the consensus on Reddit forums however mentioned about the CF v1 dial being superior than the current v3.

I was about to pull the trigger on second hand for a reasonable price 500 usd ish? But having read through this, I’m conflicted between CF V1 and BTF. I’m mostly concerned about the aesthetic parts and overall built quality.

Any comment or suggestion regarding CF V1 vs BTF would be really appreciated thankssss🥹
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CF v1 is indeed a really good dial. I still am having difficulty letting mine go lol. The markers are great, the print is great and the subdial number font spacing is great. However, it does have the blue tinge to the dial in artificial lighting that may be a dealbreaker for some.
 

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Oh maybe I was misled by some posts saying v1 is still one of the best reps out there lol. And I suppose ur suggesting cf v3 with deep xtal swap?
The thing is if you have to be asking about CF v1 vs BTF you won't notice the differences between either.

Just pick whichever one is cheaper for you. I would go with CF with a deep swap but some people swear by BTF. End of the day they're all basically very similar.
 
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