Clean Factory vs BT Factory - 116500 Panda Daytona - Updated

[mhrboy]

Not sure it's a v2. Look at the size of the crown coronet. When did you buy this?

August ‘22

 

[Reaps]

August ‘22

Ok, I take it back, it's a v2

 

[speedyguy]

Just got the ZF 116500. It feels great. Only downside for me is the blue/grayish hue to the Clean dial.

 

[pbk31]

Hello, I have just browsed the 12 pages of this forum and it does not make my choice easier for the first purchase of a Daytona replica. I have a small question that some of you may be able to answer. I've read that some Rolex replicas, including the Daytona, have the rolex crown engraved at 6 o'clock on the glass. I didn't see this feature in the photos you presented. For those who have this option, is the engraving of quality? Thank you for your answers.

 

[daytonadude]

Hello, I have just browsed the 12 pages of this forum and it does not make my choice easier for the first purchase of a Daytona replica. I have a small question that some of you may be able to answer. I've read that some Rolex replicas, including the Daytona, have the rolex crown engraved at 6 o'clock on the glass. I didn't see this feature in the photos you presented. For those who have this option, is the engraving of quality? Thank you for your answers.

They all have it.

 

[Tompa]

Hello, I have just browsed the 12 pages of this forum and it does not make my choice easier for the first purchase of a Daytona replica. I have a small question that some of you may be able to answer. I've read that some Rolex replicas, including the Daytona, have the rolex crown engraved at 6 o'clock on the glass. I didn't see this feature in the photos you presented. For those who have this option, is the engraving of quality? Thank you for your answers.

They all have it and you cant see it with naked eye. You need magnifier

 

[pbk31]

Thanks for your prompt feedback. I wasn't sure if this was the case because it's not always specified. For example, on the Intime website, the ZF factory Daytona, model 126500, white dial, there's no indication that the crystal is engraved.

 

[daytonadude]

Thanks for your prompt feedback. I wasn't sure if this was the case because it's not always specified. For example, on the Intime website, the ZF factory Daytona, model 126500, white dial, there's no indication that the crystal is engraved.

Don't get the ZF 126500, the case shape is wrong. And Clean is going to release a 126500 very soon with correct case shape.

 

[pbk31]

N'achetez pas le ZF 126500, la forme du boîtier est fausse. Et Clean va très prochainement sortir un 126500 avec une forme de boîtier correcte.

Merci pour cette information. Je vais donc attendre et cela me permettra de continuer à prendre des informations ici.

 

[speedyguy]

Is it confirmed that the ZF uses a deep crystal? Curious where that’s sourced

 

[muiramas]

Ty

I think mine is a V2 from Clean. Changing crystal to remove greyish tone should be ok. I also read a post where @Johnny Depp cooked in hover a little bit the dial to improve color…

Changing the crystal does not change the colour of the dial. Thats some random placebo bs which gained a lot more traction than it should have.

Changing CF crystals because they are crap is a must, but the dial is still going to be the wrong colour.

I’d also advise against cooking your dial to make it less wrong. That’s even more left field.

Bottom line is the CF panda dial is ass.

 

[masterpiece777]

Ty

Changing the crystal does not change the colour of the dial. Thats some random placebo bs which gained a lot more traction than it should have.

Changing CF crystals because they are crap is a must, but the dial is still going to be the wrong colour.

I’d also advise against cooking your dial to make it less wrong. That’s even more left field.

Bottom line is the CF panda dial is ass.

So end of all ARF V2 still has the best dial?

 

[Bobi01]

So end of all ARF V2 still has the best dial?

Im really not often write but guys, but saying ARF dial is the best compared to clean , zf and btf is bullshit , arf is history …

 

[masterpiece777]

Im really not often write but guys, but saying ARF dial is the best compared to clean , zf and btf is bullshit , arf is history …

What’s c
the best dial ever made for 500 series?

 

[muiramas]

So end of all ARF V2 still has the best dial?

Thats not what I said.

 

[Bobi01]

What’s c
the best dial ever made for 500 series?

Imo still no perfect and no best
Btf(but the batch before newest, newest have too thick subdials), zf or clean… im still thinking that zf and clean uses the same dial but sometimes vary slightly the color of the dial… btf is closest in terms of color but the printing in subdials and 5 line text in my opinion is better on zf and clean… cant tell which is better overral.. in the end it is personal choice

 

[muiramas]

Bottom line is if you can't tell what the best is then it won't matter to you.

I am not still convinced that ZF dial is the same as Clean either.

 

[daytonadude]

Imo still no perfect and no best
Btf(but the batch before newest, newest have too thick subdials), zf or clean… im still thinking that zf and clean uses the same dial but sometimes vary slightly the color of the dial… btf is closest in terms of color but the printing in subdials and 5 line text in my opinion is better on zf and clean… cant tell which is better overral.. in the end it is personal choice

ZF is super close, I've compared it to a more recent gen, it's just missing the gen luster/shine. ARF is so good in that regard.

 

[daytonadude]

ZF left, CF right. These are two different dials, or at least two different batches from the same supplier.

 

[speedyguy]

ZF left, CF right. These are two different dials, or at least two different batches from the same supplier.

Very interesting.

I was wondering if you could clarify a few things. Trustytime posted on telegram a while back that ZF claims to be using a clean bezel and dial, and an ARF bracelet. I have also seen comments stating that the ZF indeed has a deep crystal



I haven't held an ARF bracelet, seen a deep crystal, or held a Clean Daytona in hand. So can’t really tell tbh. It doesn’t really matter to me since I enjoy my ZF, but I’m curious about the validity of these claims since they are good selling points.

I asked Ctime on WhatsApp if any of these statements were true. They said the bezel is likely a Clean, but they couldn’t comment on the dial. And they stated ARF is shut down. They didn’t seem to have much of an idea.