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ARF silently released new 16610LN's and 16610LV's

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That is fantastic. So much more personality than the most recent models. Love the goofy clasp.

VR and SH are the manufacturer?

Thanks!

VR and SH are referring to some movement models that are manufactured in Shanghai, China.

VR is arguably the second best 3135 clones. They are reliable and pretty good in build quality. I personally have had 4 of them. They are pretty good and reliable.

And people claim that SH V2 are manufactured by the same factory as VR.
 
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VR and SH are referring to some movement models that are manufactured in Shanghai, China.

VR is arguably the second best 3135 clones. They are reliable and pretty good in build quality. I personally have had 4 of them. They are pretty good and reliable.

And people claim that SH V2 are manufactured by the same factory as VR.

Interesting thank you. I am such a stickler for movement accuracy I have had to relax my expectations with replicas. The build quality on my GM Explorer II seems excellent, but it's running 10 seconds per day slow. I have had ETA 2824 that were almost perfect.

Still a gorgeous watch and I am happy overall!


 
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Interesting thank you. I am such a stickler for movement accuracy I have had to relax my expectations with replicas. The build quality on my GM Explorer II seems excellent, but it's running 10 seconds per day slow. I have had ETA 2824 that were almost perfect.

Still a gorgeous watch and I am happy overall!





There is a thread about movements.. it contains decent amount of information
 
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No im comparing the new BP Bluesy with VR to an ARF with VR. I do have an old BP SD as well which I love. The clasp on the Bluesy was no where near as good as the ARF as well.



The BP bracelet feels a bit rough and sharp on the edges (when i run my finger across the bracelet, i can feel my fingers kinda catching on the brushings).

Do you think the ARF bracelet itself feels better than the BP?
I see Alibaba sells the ARF bracelet but it’s $200, which is very steep relative to the whole BP watch
 

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The BP bracelet feels a bit rough and sharp on the edges (when i run my finger across the bracelet, i can feel my fingers kinda catching on the brushings).

Do you think the ARF bracelet itself feels better than the BP?
I see Alibaba sells the ARF bracelet but it’s $200, which is very steep relative to the whole BP watch

The feel to me is far superior. The link screws on my Kermit are perfectly flush and very snug. The clasp is night and day different as well.
 

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Does anyone know where I can purchase the flat 4 ARF LV insert at all?

I am looking to install on my RAF non rehaut kermit
 

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Is there anyone who managed to mount the retaining ring and gen bezel on the ARF?
 

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What bezel is that? Love it. And is that a bp case?
I bought 3 RAFs and 3 ARFs and started to pic the best parts for a Franken. There is a lot of variation, and I learned that there are 2 different RAF cases and bracelets. (Easy spot is the crown guard shape)

Here is the build spec:

RAF case and bracelet (far superior to ARF)
VS movement
Gen faded inlay
Gen dial (M Series)
Gen hands
Gen datewheel
Gen click spring
RAF crystal (waaaay better then ARF)
ARF crown


 

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Guys! Really love the LV but mismatch lume is a no go for my ocd.. is it worth switching in a BP LV dial and hands or are they of sub par quality?

The BP case with the chamfers and non gen bezel construction is one thing but what about dial print and hands?
 

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Guys! Really love the LV but mismatch lume is a no go for my ocd.. is it worth switching in a BP LV dial and hands or are they of sub par quality?

The BP case with the chamfers and non gen bezel construction is one thing but what about dial print and hands?
If you can find a 16610LV RAF, you wont have the issue :) And imo, case and bracelet is better (There are 2 versions of the RAF case and bracelet, you need to find the good one :))

If you wanna stick with the ARF, just relume the hands
 

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If you can find a 16610LV RAF, you wont have the issue :) And imo, case and bracelet is better (There are 2 versions of the RAF case and bracelet, you need to find the good one :))

If you wanna stick with the ARF, just relume the hands


Ah I see! I want to move the guts movement,dial and hands to a ginualt watch so it is really only dial and hand quality that concerns me. But a raf dial/hand would be great!
 
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If anyone has a ARF V2 flat four LV insert they'd wanna get rid of... I just botched mine trying to open it up in the package...
 

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There are 2 versions of the RAF case and bracelet, you need to find the good one :)
How do i find the "right" RAF-Version? Is there something i can tell my TD to make sure i don't get the "bad one"? :cool:
 
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How do i find the "right" RAF-Version? Is there something i can tell my TD to make sure i don't get the "bad one"? :cool:
Sadly no, RAF and ARF are all over the place in regards to consistency. So it is hit and miss. Order one, have a look at the QC pics, look for CG and bracelet finishing (The good ones usually have a nicely beveled bracelet edge)
 
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Thanks mate. Not the answer i was hoping for, but will do so. Will have a look at the LV for my next purchase.
 
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Latest Horlogear insert has flat four, it seems.

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