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ARF silently released new 16610LN's and 16610LV's

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I just bought a gen 14060M, because ARF or any other factory has not made one with gen specs. Well I blame all of you! I’ve build 2 5digit Submariner frankens and one is in the making, but I’ve always wanted the nodate and Raffles Nodate dial in 16610 isn’t the same in my head.

Life would be so much easier and cheaper if I would just like those newer models. Damn it!
 

FaekieOne

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But I’m going to try if ARF’s SEL-bracelet would fit the 14060M. I was reading Rolex forum and some say it will fit, some say it’s impossible. Let’s see! I might even get a 6 digit rep clasp for my gen Submariner, because they’re just so much better. I have Clean 116613 bracelet fitted to my 16613LB at the moment and it’s very comfortable.
@KJ2020 is your 6 digit clasp gen or rep on your 16710?
 

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I put my VSF 114060 bracelet with glidelock on my 166010LV and it fit perfectly
 
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I might even get a 6 digit rep clasp for my gen Submariner, because they’re just so much better. I have Clean 116613 bracelet fitted to my 16613LB at the moment and it’s very comfortable. @KJ2020 is your 6 digit clasp gen or rep on your 16710?
It's a rep clasp bro. I also put a 6 digit bracelet and clasp on a BP 16613. So much better.

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Glamour shot, haha

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@KJ2020 Do you remember what year Rolex switched to AR crystals on the 16610LN (Besides from service crystals). I'm trying to build a period correct 16610ln no rehaut
 

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It's a rep clasp bro. I also put a 6 digit bracelet and clasp on a BP 16613. So much better.

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Glamour shot, haha

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Hi KJ,

had this once as gen and was stupid enough to sell it. Is there any Chance to get this one as a rep ?
 
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@KJ2020 Do you remember what year Rolex switched to AR crystals on the 16610LN (Besides from service crystals). I'm trying to build a period correct 16610ln no rehaut
Looks like about 2005 for AR cyclops crystals and 2007-2009 for engraved rehauts. So "ARF" got it right that if it has RRR, it should have AR. Pretty commendable they would go to these lengths, along with the insert coloration being period correct.

Some interesting articles:
Rolex AR crystal history

16610 characteristics over the years
 

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Hi KJ,

had this once as gen and was stupid enough to sell it. Is there any Chance to get this one as a rep ?
BP still makes these bro, but all their 16613s (LN, LB, Serti) are in ETA or DG cases and have ETA/DG position datewheels, date window and cyclops. I used to think BP did this for cost cutting reasons but have since realized it's because of the royal PITA it is to fit a DWO to a 2824 due to vertical space constraints.

Nembo from RG has a good display of them on his new sales website. Trusty also still lists them all. Nembo's site is wrong about them having a 2836, though they are available with a 2813.


So the good thing about the ETAs is they are 2824 cases, which can take a 3135 natively. They do have too large a rehaut aperture to take a gen dial though. So I got a Rolex date window ETA Serti dial from Raffles and mounted it on a VR3135 with a gen champagne datewheel and with some gen-spec hands and a Clark's crystal swap it all comes together.

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BP still makes these bro, but all their 16613s (LN, LB, Serti) are in ETA cases and have ETA position datewheels, date window and cyclops. I used to think BP did this for cost cutting reasons but have since realized it's because of the royal PITA it is to fit a DWO to a 2824 due to vertical space constraints.

Nembo from RG has a good display of them on his new sales website. Trusty also still lists them all. Nembo's site is wrong about them having a 2836, though they are available with a 2813.


So the good thing about these is they are 2824 cases, which can take a 3135 natively. They do have too large a rehaut aperture to take a gen dial though. So I got a Rolex date window ETA Serti dial from Raffles and mounted it on a VR3135 with a gen champagne datewheel and with some gen-spec hands and a Clark's crystal swap it all comes together.
Thx that much for the detailed answer. Will have a look on trusty.
 

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Looks like about 2005 for AR cyclops crystals and 2007-2009 for engraved rehauts. So "ARF" got it right that if it has RRR, it should have AR. Pretty commendable they would go to these lengths, along with the insert coloration being period correct.

Some interesting articles:
Rolex AR crystal history

16610 characteristics over the years
I stuck a VSF 116610 crystal on my 16610 just because I wanted it. I guess since they started doing it in 2005 you could argue that maybe a tiny percentage of the non rehaut ones also got the AR crystal. I don't really care though, I just like the look ^^

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I got my beauty today, super happy!
The bezel movement is a disaster unfortunately..

Are you gonna try replacing the click springs and or bezel gasket?
 

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As has been stated, this looks to be the most promising 16610 since the era that sent TC into Ghost-mode.
If you've been wanting a 16610 LN or LV, this may be the time to jump.

I'm flush with frankens when it comes to the 16610 or I'd be inclined to scoop up a pair while they're available.
(though I suspect the M2M Sales section will be lit up with these in 3-4 mos. or so. )
OK, so I missed my mark by a couple months.
They're already sprouting up in the M2M. ;)
 
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