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Another Moonswatch metal case project

qjai89

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Been a while since I posted in this thread but here's my more recent build using the parnsrpe case. Came with the sloped black bezel which I didn't like so I grabbed an old spare blue flat bezel instead.

Seller discription said it came with acrylic crystal but definitely thin glass used instead. Domed crystal is a bit lower compared to other cases. Otherwise not bad.


 

roflwaffle

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Don’t mess with your gen

Either replace the PE50 with a G10.212 which will give you a close approximation for the 2H subdial (there are several versions of the G10.212)

Or buy a used swatch Irony chrono and scavenge that movement, it’s the same as the gen moonswatch non moonphase

You will need to get new hands but nh35, eta 2836 or vk63 hands will work
vk63 hands do not fit really.

G10.212 hand sizes - 1.5 0.90 0.25 0.2
VK63 - 1.5 0.90 0.32 0.2 (chrono hand too big)
NH35 - 1.5 0.90 0.21 (chrono hand too small, and no subdial hands)
PE50 - 1.2 0.70 0.17 0.2
generally theyll work for hour and minute hand, and you can reuse the subdial hands, but the chrono one will be hard, without crimping or broaching, depending.
 

roflwaffle

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i believe you'll also need to make changes when using the g10.212 for pushers and i dont recall the stem thread pitch, but maybe the latter will line up. And make slight changes to the cad for the movement holder, as its a slightly wider diameter movement, but at least thats easy enough.
 

Karbon74

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Enlarging the central seconds of a nh35 is super easy. just a needle and you are done

You can use the vk63 hour, minute and subdial hands

I don’t remember the stem height if the g10.212 but it’s a quartz. No winding, so even if the stem is slightly off center, it works fine
 
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fullheqls

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I got this swatch irony for a few bucks in my local shop for my future moonswatch mod, trying to figure out how to open it, any suggestions are welcome 😁

 

Karbon74

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You need to remove the bezel and crystal

There might be a clutch of some kind that disengages the crown

Then you lift the movement assembly out
 
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fullheqls

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You need to remove the bezel and crystal

There might be a clutch of some kind that disengages the crown

Then you lift the movement assembly out
Thanks. After some research, I found this video too.

Will give it a go thanks 🙏
 

DapperDoctorHolmes

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For reference, the 34mm spacers came in - they fit perfectly in the Corgeut / Neiton case, but as previously suspected you can see a slim edge around the dial, so no-go.

Interestingly the 34mm spacer was also slightly too large for the WD1860 case; I probably could shaved it down, but since I’m probably returning the 1860 anyway (and crossing my fingers for a beautiful 1863 instead, despite being twice the price)..
 
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DapperDoctorHolmes

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The PARNSRPE has arrived! I picked up the newly stocked flat bezel version (currently only in black I think) and it actually came with a ‘Dot-Over-90’ Aluminum bezel insert, which is sweet.

I would say this is my favorite ‘blank’ case by far, though it is still chonkier than they claim.

It comes in at 15.2mm thick with the stock caseback, quite a ways away from the 14.5mm they advertise.

If you swap the caseback for one of the replica ones, you come down to 14.9mm.

If you swap the caseback for one of the (nearly flat) Pagani casebacks, it brings it down to 14.6mm, which is probably the thinnest of the ‘stock’ cases I’ve seen?

The Pagani with the replica caseback is 14.5mm, vs. 14.2mm with its own caseback.

What’s also nice about the PARNSRPE is the replica crown that comes with the replica caseback (both from Jason007) actually fits without having to do any sort of tube swap, and it’s a better crown than I’ve managed to find on AliX so far; it’s a 6.4mm crown vs. Pagani’s 5.9mm, which means it doesn’t fit on the Pagani (and all the Omega branded crowns I’ve seen so far on AliX are chonkier than Gen and protrude outward a bit bulbously.

The crystal’s not bad, it’s a single dome that’s about the same height as the Pagani. Because it’s a single dome it has a magnification effect, which has advantages and disadvantages. On one hand, it magnifies the dial so it looks quite a bit larger than it does in the Pagani case. On the other hand, that makes it a little off balance with the small/thinness of the bezel. It also makes it illegible from a severe angle, not that there’s much of a reason to ever be trying to read your watch sideways.

The full bezel construction is still taller than on the Pagani (or Gen), and I suspect that’s where it’s picking up its height difference, as the midcase is actually quite nice.

Unfortunately that bezel height is also noticeable in the rehaut - despite the crystal magnifying the dial, the dial still noticeably looks physically farther away than in the Pagani.

I also just realized the 33mm spacer I’m using, while fitting the case perfectly, is weirdly not centering the dial horizontally, so I’ll have to futz with that and see what the deal is.

These also don’t come with any bracelet, which is fine, but worth noting.

I’ve not tried the case in black or with the sloped bezel inserts, but I’d assume (hope?) they share the same features and dimensions.
 
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DapperDoctorHolmes

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Update on the un-centered dial; turns out this rep dial was just misprinted left. The left side has 0.5mm of clearance, the right has 1mm, so approx 2.5mm of misprint 😵‍💫

It’s not as noticeable in other cases, cause the other crystals aren’t magnifying it.
 
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M Scott

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If you swap the caseback for one of the (nearly flat) Pagani casebacks, it brings it down to 14.6mm, which is probably the thinnest of the ‘stock’ cases I’ve seen?

The Pagani with the replica caseback is 14.5mm, vs. 14.2mm with its own caseback.
Actually if you put one of Jason007s newer replica casebacks on the newest Pagani V6 case the thickness is only 14.0.
I liked the first one that I got from him so much that I got 2 more and they are all the same thickness.


 
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DapperDoctorHolmes

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Actually if you put one of Jason007s newer replica casebacks on the newest Pagani V6 case the thickness is only 14.0.
I liked the first one that I got from him so much that I got 2 more and they are all the same thickness.


Sweet! Can you measure your Pagani with the original caseback?

It seems Pagani has changed the overall thickness of their cases a few times too, and I’m pretty sure both of my (alleged) V6s have the same but thicker case. I’ve been trying to find one of their thinner ones, but haven’t had luck yet. One was a black dial V6, the other was a white dial V6, and the white dialed V6 looks like it has even brighter / whiter text on the bezel (although I have been wearing the other which I modded two months ago, so maybe the text on the black V6 has just aged a bit)

Unfortunately both my Pagani’s (which were supposedly V6)
 

M Scott

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And/or if you could measure the rep caseback’s thickness by itself, I can compare to my current one and see if it’s worth replacing 😛
The Caseback alone is difficult to measure as accurately, and you would have to assume the area that threads into the case is the same dimension on both parts.

My Pagani V6 with the original caseback is the same thickness as yours at 14.2

My much older, thinner Pagani measures 13.7 with the replica caseback...