What AP Franken(s) do you have in the works?!

[Jurgenk]

Testing out some new broaches for upsizing from 0.20 mm to 0.25 mm, trying not to break these...

Making poor man’s gen spec center chrono hands from JF / Noob hands.

 

[Limpy]

Testing out some new broaches for upsizing from 0.20 mm to 0.25 mm, trying not to break these...

Making poor man’s gen spec center chrono hands from JF / Noob hands.

awesome - let me know when you got a solution that even me with gross motoric skills can do it.

i set my first Mikey hands and it worked out well except the chrono sec. it does not hold - but maybe the axis is broken idk - it just does not hold @12 - i could use old 7750 hands for that does not make a difference.

Thanks to slaughterer62 i got my BlackPanda back with new gen hands - he did a very good job! It looks so amazing with the gen hands. the 3D effect is really popping now and creates even more dimension.
The panda moved to a new home today and switched housings.. can live with that look a little lighter but less interessting and special ...

but the old case of the panda i not out of order. i thought of going darker on the dark case and i had a great dial thanks to a dear friend, that i received today and added right away because i just fell in love with it. and it looks absolutely Dope- even though inmessed up the chronosec and the dial is a little scratched.

the two watches really complement each other. i directly swapped the red strap for the black.

so hit me up if you know how add rep hands to the LWO

 

[slaughterer62]

Best broaches for doing what JurgenK is demonstrating are Bergeon No. 3008-type with ceramic handles You can use others, but make sure they are sharp and high quality. I generally throw out these broaches after 2 or 3 uses, as they lose their cutting precision quickly. Tip: there are two things you will want to avoid at all costs: You do not want to break the broach in the tube, and you do not want to over-stretch or strain the tube.
Glad to see that Panda moving into SS... the new platinum DLC fantasy is a stunner...
People on this forum are really getting into watchmaking...

 

[flofas]

This is becoming one of my favourite custom watches around here

 

[Limpy]

This is becoming one of my favourite custom watches around here

Thanks - it really is a cohesive design and the dial is just fabulous! The red hints really pop and the whole face is interessting

I also got hold of the ChronoSeconds - its now fixed and not lose anymore

I also swapped my old Movementholder V1 for the new V2 version. The tachy now sits closer to the dial.

My Panda loves bow in a steel case that also inherits a MH V2 and the Tachy sits perfect - added a selfdistributed 2AR crystal - that is really a whole new world!

A perfect summer watch and the black ether maybe for summertime sadness -lol

 

[mskwatch]

That modded panda is fantastic

 

[mrsullivan]

Hi everyone, 1rst step into the AP ROO mods & franken world for me.

I just received this nice Noob 26470 from Tompa (thank you again for this sale) and think I'll use it as a basewatch for franken.
1rst step : modding the case height. As you guys know the gen model is 14,18mm thick, what can I expect to gain when thinning this Noob case, knowing it is 17mm high now?

Thank you all.

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[Revolper]

Hi everyone, 1rst step into the AP ROO mods & franken world for me.

I just received this nice Noob 26470 from Tompa (thank you again for this sale) and think I'll use it as a basewatch for franken.
1rst step : modding the case height. As you guys know the gen model is 14,18mm thick, what can I expect to gain when thinning this Noob case, knowing it is 17mm high now?

Thank you all.

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Don’t expect too much. Without exchanging the CB I don’t think you can do better that just below 16.

Doesn’t belong here, though.

 

[mrsullivan]

Don’t expect too much. Without exchanging the CB I don’t think you can do better that just below 16.

Doesn’t belong here, though.

Thank you for the info.
Sorry if wrong place for posting this, I did'nt know where to ask.

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[legend]

Hi everyone, 1rst step into the AP ROO mods & franken world for me.

I just received this nice Noob 26470 from Tompa (thank you again for this sale) and think I'll use it as a basewatch for franken.
1rst step : modding the case height. As you guys know the gen model is 14,18mm thick, what can I expect to gain when thinning this Noob case, knowing it is 17mm high now?

Thank you all.

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I think that you can achieve an end thickness of maybe 14.2-14.9mm depending on the actual movement decoration, rotor and of course the amount of skill present in the thinning work.

I don’t think this should be the first step if you are building a franken though. The first step for me is planning and sourcing all the gen parts. And in fact the thinning should be left to the last after knowing what movement and rotor you’re using.


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[mrsullivan]

Thank you legend, those are even better news.
Good tips about building chronolgy, I saw you pointing us in that direction before on the forum, so I'll stick to it and start by sourcing the bits.

The case thickness is a big deal to me, I'll dig more infos about the movement options as well, to thin it down as much as possible.

Thank you all, I don't want to bother with my beginner's questions here so let's get back to the thread.

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[legend]

Thank you legend, those are even better news.
Good tips about building chronolgy, I saw you pointing us in that direction before on the forum, so I'll stick to it and start by sourcing the bits.

The case thickness is a big deal to me, I'll dig more infos about the movement options as well, to thin it down as much as possible.

Thank you all, I don't want to bother with my beginner's questions here so let's get back to the thread.

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This thread is about frankens in the works and it looks like you have one. So i do think that your discussion is valid. Am tagging [mention]QueTip [/mention]here to confirm my point.

Beginner questions are in fact necessary. If everyone is an expert then there will be no need for advice to be taken or given :hehehe:

So you have a franken 26470 in the works and it’s a perfect fit for this thread.


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[legend]

Thank you legend, those are even better news.
Good tips about building chronolgy, I saw you pointing us in that direction before on the forum, so I'll stick to it and start by sourcing the bits.

The case thickness is a big deal to me, I'll dig more infos about the movement options as well, to thin it down as much as possible.

Thank you all, I don't want to bother with my beginner's questions here so let's get back to the thread.

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This thread is about frankens in the works and it looks like you have one. So i do think that your discussion is valid. Am tagging [mention]QueTip [/mention]here to confirm my point.

Beginner questions are in fact necessary. If everyone is an expert then there will be no need for advice to be taken or given :hehehe:

So you have a franken 26470 in the works and it’s a perfect fit for this thread.


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[Revolper]

I guess then I didn’t understand your plans when I replied to you before. If you are indeed planning on frankening the watch and not just reducing the thickness having the case modded before you gathered the parts you want to franken with should not be recommended.

 

[QueTip]

This thread is about frankens in the works and it looks like you have one. So i do think that your discussion is valid. Am tagging [mention]QueTip [/mention]here to confirm my point.

Last time I checked, this was completely true and the topic of a franken journey absolutely belongs in the 'what Franken are you working on' thread. Where else, if not here?


Re: the answer of the questions raised, as always, legend is 100% right and is speaking with a lot of experience in that topic.

 

[mrsullivan]

I guess then I didn’t understand your plans when I replied to you before. If you are indeed planning on frankening the watch and not just reducing the thickness having the case modded before you gathered the parts you want to franken with should not be recommended.

True, I understand now the chronology of things, and it does make sense that the case thinning is more a finishing of the watch once frankening has been done.
Great tips from everyone as usual, thank you.

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[Limpy]

true, first step should always be gatheringvthe parts and when you got everything in hand hand it to your modder that will assamble all of it. basically the franken hight can be adjusted depending on how far down you shave tha caseback. the V2 caseback if Jf for example is very thick and has a long chamfer that is as big as the thinned Cb would be. there are missing side surface that will look odd. this is for the modder to decide how its done best. you can get 0.x mm by shavingvthe caskets or thinning the midcase even more.

i create the case first because i know my holders and how they fit. i bring them to a general overall hight of 14.5mm that work for me and fine tune later if nescessary.

interessting: the AP website shows for different Roo models different overall hihhts. so some models are 14.6 and others 14.2mm

but dont take me as a reference i do it completely different than everyone else as i have the case done and. then insert all the past bit by bit

 

[legend]

Thank you legend, those are even better news.
Good tips about building chronolgy, I saw you pointing us in that direction before on the forum, so I'll stick to it and start by sourcing the bits.

The case thickness is a big deal to me, I'll dig more infos about the movement options as well, to thin it down as much as possible.

Thank you all, I don't want to bother with my beginner's questions here so let's get back to the thread.

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I’m always interested whenever a member wants to start a 26470 build. Personally my taste evolved from the classic ROOs like the panda and safari to the ones with the ceramic crown, pushers, new style hands and black datewheel with the modern fonts.

The vampire (or better yet the dark knight with its ceramic bezel) is a good choice for a daily wear and I bid you all the best in sourcing for the necessary parts. 26470 frankens are always a challenge to build given the open caseback and general lack of availability of gen hands. The Mikey hands for this series are visually quite close but not 1:1 once you know where to look so if you’re starting your search from ground zero, do include gen hands in your shopping list too. If you need any help at any phase don’t hesitate to ask! It’s truly better than completing the build after spending so much time and money and being disappointed with the final result. I’m happy to assist where I can. For what it’s worth, I have not seen a 26470 franken which is all round impressive and I attribute that to the lack of gen parts and not due to lack of skills of any modder.
So it’ll be good if you can get the first step right and get all the gen parts you can afford to get your hands on and then go from there. The case thickness is the least of your concerns.


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[mrsullivan]

legend that is very kind of you, I sure will when needed (don't worry I'll do my homework so I don't message you 10 times a day!).

I'd like to keep it Vampire yes, really like this black dial/tachy on SS case/bezel. The gen hands are definitely on my list.
I'll keep updated when a source bits, thenk you all.

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[Tompa]

If you want to franken the newer models with glas caseback trie to get an noob model. There caseback and bezels have more brushed areas then JF. JF have more polished. (And you will cut in the brushed areas. Here is pics of a noob and the a JF vampire. And its the same with the bezel

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