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What AP Franken(s) do you have in the works?!
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Interesting built with the hyped 'tiffany blue'. Curious to see what the finished built will looks like.
Guys this is not a build of mine, it is just franken idea for fellow members
this is how the final product looks:
this is how the final product looks:
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It would be cooler if the date wheel was white or Tiffany blue.
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...looks like something extracted from a carnival claw machine :-(
Coincidentally I extracted something from a carnival claw machine recently and the fur was a Tiffany blue color.
For $6-8k they are very nice replicas of APs, considering the inflated prices of luxury watches now. I wouldn’t call them “super frankens” myself as I can see that they are obvious reps but like I always say, if it’s a $500 rep, it can be enjoyed at one level and at $6000 it’s another level of enjoyment in the same hobby.
Thank you for sharing, I do enjoy what you bring to the community J!
For $6-8k they are very nice replicas of APs, considering the inflated prices of luxury watches now. I wouldn’t call them “super frankens” myself as I can see that they are obvious reps but like I always say, if it’s a $500 rep, it can be enjoyed at one level and at $6000 it’s another level of enjoyment in the same hobby.
Thank you for sharing, I do enjoy what you bring to the community J!
Thanks my good friend
nah, these are not replicas
Also for me they have more value, you are getting a 25k watch with 6k just with different swiss movement
These are 100% replicas. Do not be mistaken and do not say otherwise.
If they are not from the AP Le Brassus factory, and are made without the proper certification and without the correct parts, they are not genuine APs and are therefore replicas. Make no mistake about it.
A gen watch is a lot more than just assembling a watch with original parts. It is a timepiece which also carries the heritage of the brand with it and also something AP will honor the service, repair and maintenance of. Try handing this watch to AP for a service and the truth becomes apparent.
You are however free to place your own value and worth upon it but the logic is simple really: if it’s not a genuine AP then it’s a replica. There are no 2 ways about it.
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They essentially are exactly that. Reps. No matter how you twist or turn it. Any franken, even genstein (that is arguable but imho it is) were not assembled in the manufacturers and thus trademark owners workshops.
You can buy it, stick a gen movement in it and yet you won’t be able to send it to APSC for service because the serials of movement and case don’t correlate.
If you think they’ll be fine with that and take it regardless of that, I’ve got some bad news for you.
Used to be a fair tad less strict but in today’s day and age, the possibility of getting that done is very close to zero.
So to recap: you got a $8000-20000 watch that’s fully genuine but you can’t send it to APSC because it was cooked up. What does that make it? Gen? I don’t think so. You’re lacking documentation and papers. Just not how this world works.
Thank you for your input and i appreciate it
Don't get me wrong please, i certainly understand what you are saying
However for now i ll stick to my mind that is an all gen watch except the movement that is from another swiss manufacturer
perhaps in the future i could see this from your perspective
This forum is made up of opinions, without which it’ll be empty. So different opinions including yours are certainly very welcome. In fact having different opinions are much more interesting than congruent ones in any community.
But I draw the line here in misrepresenting reps as gens in any way as it can mislead and confuse members here, especially the newer ones. I own gen APs and I can say for certain that even without papers, the 26170 franken you showed is a replica watch, evident just by looking at it. It has NOTHING to do with a gen AP at all. Not even close. You are however welcome to view it and any other replicas as anything you wish and place any value and worth upon it, that is your right.
But I will ask you to remember that frankens are not gens (and not even close) and once you start owning gen APs you will understand this fact perfectly. So feel free to discuss these watches any way you wish, it is your right absolutely but let’s not pretend that they are anything but replica watches.
I can't call a franken watch as a simple replica, and ofcourse is not gen, it is mispresenting for me
its a mix with gen and rep or aftermarket parts or in case of genstein projects everything is gen
Where the gen parts went? Did they miss their value?
You are the moderator of this sub, so if this is a line, thats my last comment about this subject
Best regards,
J
Please feel free to comment on anything, you are not being “moderated” or controlled in any way J. All I’m saying is that no matter how many gen parts go into an AP watch, it is not a gen AP. The value of the gen parts are priced naturally into the build so basically the watch can be sold for what it’s bought. But no matter what it’s not a gen watch. It is a replica and this has to be very clear. Putting gen parts into a rep watch does not turn it gen. It can look more accurate to gen yes. But it does not and never will have the pedigree of a gen AP. You have the right to determine how much the watch is worth and as long as you’re happy nobody can say anything about your watch.
But let’s not post pics of frankens and reps and call them gens or “not replicas” or “equal to gen” because they are all just replicas. Just show them for what they are without exaggeration. For example in the panda 26170 you posted the hands are not all gen. They are all 100% replicas so let’s keep the gens and reps separate. You cannot bring the watch to AP and say “hey look it has a gen AP dial so I demand you service the watch for me”. You can guess what will happen if you use the same reasoning you did in the real world as you do on the forum :legend:
I have mentioned before that a gen AP timepiece, and a watch having a gen AP dial and hands or whatever, are very different things. A gen AP needs to be put together by AP and besides having all AP parts and the proper assembly and QA process there is also the proper documentation for the timepiece and of course the full support of the aftersales service. The gen AP ownership journey is vastly different from buying reps from wechat dealers. So please feel free to discuss reps and frankens here but leave the gens to the guys who know and own the gens. Just because a watch has this or that part gen doesn’t mean that the gen becomes worthless. Gen APs have their values which the reps can never replicate.
So please, continue to share the China builds and such but let everyone decide their own values of the watches. Don’t call them gens or imply they are gens please. They are all replicas and having gen parts doesn’t change that. I am a gen AP owner and I know my gens and they look nothing like that at all. But as replicas they are nice watches and that is good enough.
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Unless a watch has matching serials and papers from AP the watch is not gen like Legend mentioned. This hobby is not about misrepresenting a watch as gen but calling a watch what it is, in this case genuine parts are used to improve the look of a replica at a (high) cost and an outlet for modders to show their creativity. If you add genuine parts to a watch the value becomes the cost of the rep + genuine parts, and you cannot sell it on reputable watch exchange websites even, so the value is literally what you spend on the parts, no more. A replica with gen parts becomes exactly that, a replica with gen parts....
Thank you Mr I please keep the posts coming. They are useful for the community.
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