Good observation. As I mentioned in my original post above, the bezel feel and movement is VERY close to my gen. In taking a closer look at my close up pics you can see just how close the feel might be as the bezel is almost identical to the gen.
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Good observation. As I mentioned in my original post above, the bezel feel and movement is VERY close to my gen. In taking a closer look at my close up pics you can see just how close the feel might be as the bezel is almost identical to the gen.
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Sorry mates it doesn't scream gen it's rep from a quick glimpse of the pics and I bought both of them to compare IRL.
Gen vs ZZF
Your pics are not very clear to see details, sorry. Which pic is your gen? Care to compare your gen to the ARF and ZZF.
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Your pics are not very clear to see details, sorry. Which pic is your gen? Care to compare your gen to the ARF and ZZF.
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I dont have the gen one of the pics is my ZZF and others are random gen photos I found with the same angle. That was the point of the post to mix the ZZF with gens and see if people spot it. If its Noob or ARF you can spot it as a rep quite easly but in this thread people still rave ARF screams gen.
Im not sure if they have had both IRL but I bought them both to compare and ARF may have a good feel but its not that gen looking. You cant mix it with gen photos like that and get a question which one is gen.
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It is yes not so hard for the trained eye for any rep unfortunately. But that keeps the hobby interesting the chase for perfection.
With all due respect, I think we'll just have to agree to disagree. Your pic of your ZZF was not a close up shot and could still be picked out as a ZZF. Personally, I can tell no difference without magnification between my gen and ARF. Not from visual, not from feel and not from the bracelet, clasp, or glidelock movement. I don't believe the ARF V3 is as easy to spot as you state it is. I even took some caliper readings on the lugs before typing this note and they are nearly identical to the gen. The only thing I can tell without magnification is some of the date fonts on the DW seem a bit too large. Not all, just a few. Maybe you received a bad one which is why you don't think the ARF is as good as a ZZF? To me, the instant giveaway on the ZZF is the crown guards and the double X rehault. I don't need an ARF and ZZF side by side to notice that double X.
I personally believe it might be possible for one to mix up non magnified pics of an ARF with a gen (again, non magnified like your first pic) and not know which is which. From a magnified pic, I'm sure you could pick out the ARF. But even with my magnified pics of the crown guards and bezel it is hard to tell a difference between the two from those shots.
Bottom line, both watches are great reps. They both have flaws and the end user must decide which flaws they can live with the most. It's a great time for rep purchasers as there are some very good choices for us to chose from. I think this is something we do agree on.
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Agreed. I also was not referring to picking out rep flaws in pics blown up x100 on a big screen. All stock reps have flaws and we can spot them instantly on our large forum pics.
What I mean gen like in person is the overall solid feel and build quality. The ARF has tight fit in the bezel...no gaps with case and bezel turns with a quality feel with no play. The bracelet feels solid throughout. The clasp is a dream. When you first hold an ARF you don’t question it’s a rep—it just doesn’t feel fake handling it and putting it on. I personally don’t care if the lug shape is off a hair. Give me a break.
What I mean gen like in person is the overall solid feel and build quality. The ARF has tight fit in the bezel...no gaps with case and bezel turns with a quality feel with no play. The bracelet feels solid throughout. The clasp is a dream. When you first hold an ARF you don’t question it’s a rep—it just doesn’t feel fake handling it and putting it on. I personally don’t care if the lug shape is off a hair. Give me a break.
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With all due respect, I think we'll just have to agree to disagree. Your pic of your ZZF was not a close up shot and could still be picked out as a ZZF. Personally, I can tell no difference without magnification between my gen and ARF. Not from visual, not from feel and not from the bracelet, clasp, or glidelock movement. I don't believe the ARF V3 is as easy to spot as you state it is. I even took some caliper readings on the lugs before typing this note and they are nearly identical to the gen. The only thing I can tell without magnification is some of the date fonts on the DW seem a bit too large. Not all, just a few. Maybe you received a bad one which is why you don't think the ARF is as good as a ZZF? To me, the instant giveaway on the ZZF is the crown guards and the double X rehault. I don't need an ARF and ZZF side by side to notice that double X.
I personally believe it might be possible for one to mix up non magnified pics of an ARF with a gen (again, non magnified like your first pic) and not know which is which. From a magnified pic, I'm sure you could pick out the ARF. But even with my magnified pics of the crown guards and bezel it is hard to tell a difference between the two from those shots.
Bottom line, both watches are great reps. They both have flaws and the end user must decide which flaws they can live with the most. It's a great time for rep purchasers as there are some very good choices for us to chose from. I think this is something we do agree on.
No worries.
I understand to each his own and different people like different things but sometimes it feels people are protecting the one they bought without having ever seen the other IRL. The ARF v3 was the best rep I had ever had when I first received it. All my previous ones were the expensive latest noobs. I was amazed about the gen like feel and gen like look and when ordering the ZZF I was already prepared that I will sell the ZZF after giving it a quick look.
Also it's good for the hobby that people do buy from different factories and rave about different factories as this keeps the competition going and watches evolving.
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Welcome to the forum
Start some reading like this
https://forum.replica-watch.info/fo...e-ultimate-guide-to-rwi-new-members-read-here
Is it safer to buy a watch without a cyclops? I am asking in the context of zoom and date font. Overall, I like the cyclops and I would prefer the cyclops versions. I am just considering arf v3
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I am taking the version with the date. I don't think that's a problem. The cyclope seems very close to the gen, certainly not easily distinguishable. The DW on 2824 seems correct already now. I would have preferred the no data too because I think that the less complications there are the better. But there is no data of ARF and of other factories I am not convinced.
Does the ARF announce to release a version without date? Maybe it's worth the wait? What's wrong with the noob version - bracelet?
Sharing with you QC pic for my V3 a2824 purchase.
DW seems to be good on this one. I only contested the discoloration on the bezel...
Its dirt bro. Toothbrush will solve it. GL
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Sharing with you QC pic for my V3 a2824 purchase.
DW seems to be good on this one. I only contested the discoloration on the bezel...
Ask to show different dates as on my V3 A2824 they were misaligned all over the place with each different date so it looked quite awful on some days.
Hello everyone. I’m concerned about a couple things if you guys can help me out I really appreciate it.
1. 10.7 s/d
2. Bezel doesn’t look centered. The triangle under the pearl doesn’t look straight and more the left.
3. Date the font looks a little thick.
4. The 0 on the 50 looks like something is on there or the paint is band.
5. SEL looks good to me in some pictures and some it looks a little off.
Thank you again
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1. 10.7 s/d
2. Bezel doesn’t look centered. The triangle under the pearl doesn’t look straight and more the left.
3. Date the font looks a little thick.
4. The 0 on the 50 looks like something is on there or the paint is band.
5. SEL looks good to me in some pictures and some it looks a little off.
Thank you again
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