Tutorial: How to fix the Bezel on a CLEAN GMT Master 2

[Akapeloso]

Hello, I have made a mistake. I changed the bezel gasket for another one that fit, this one was too thick and I had a hard time fitting it into the watch case. Once in the box, seeing that it was almost impossible for me to crack the bezel, I took it out again... and the piece with the slots that is above the glass joint got stuck under pressure and now I don't know how to separate it from the bezel. The only thing that has occurred to me is to take off the ceramic and from there try to use force even if the bezel joint weighs on me, I have more. I have put the entire bezel in hot water and then used the hairdryer but the ceramic does not come off, I am going to try boiling water and then hairdryer. Any advice? xd . I put photos. thanks in advance

 

[derjenigewelcher]

Hello, I have made a mistake. I changed the bezel gasket for another one that fit, this one was too thick and I had a hard time fitting it into the watch case. Once in the box, seeing that it was almost impossible for me to crack the bezel, I took it out again... and the piece with the slots that is above the glass joint got stuck under pressure and now I don't know how to separate it from the bezel. The only thing that has occurred to me is to take off the ceramic and from there try to use force even if the bezel joint weighs on me, I have more. I have put the entire bezel in hot water and then used the hairdryer but the ceramic does not come off, I am going to try boiling water and then hairdryer. Any advice? xd . I put photos. thanks in advance

Skrewdriver from underneath to remove insert

 

[Akapeloso]

Skrewdriver from underneath to remove insert

Skrewdriver from underneath to remove insert

Man, I tried yesterday with the tweezers tool for the parts of the watch movement, I didn't care if they broke the tips and it didn't work, I read your message and I took the thinnest link screwdriver I have and pried it...




Thanks a lot man, you save me

 

[derjenigewelcher]

Man, I tried yesterday with the tweezers tool for the parts of the watch movement, I didn't care if they broke the tips and it didn't work, I read your message and I took the thinnest link screwdriver I have and pried it...




Thanks a lot man, you save me

Great to hear it worked

 

[JTB16635]

Man, I tried yesterday with the tweezers tool for the parts of the watch movement, I didn't care if they broke the tips and it didn't work, I read your message and I took the thinnest link screwdriver I have and pried it...




Thanks a lot man, you save me

Hello, I have made a mistake. I changed the bezel gasket for another one that fit, this one was too thick and I had a hard time fitting it into the watch case. Once in the box, seeing that it was almost impossible for me to crack the bezel, I took it out again... and the piece with the slots that is above the glass joint got stuck under pressure and now I don't know how to separate it from the bezel. The only thing that has occurred to me is to take off the ceramic and from there try to use force even if the bezel joint weighs on me, I have more. I have put the entire bezel in hot water and then used the hairdryer but the ceramic does not come off, I am going to try boiling water and then hairdryer. Any advice? xd . I put photos. thanks in advance

The bezel inserts are super fragile when deflected. So Be super careful if you try to pry it out. The best way to remove them is to soak the bezel in GooGone brand cleaner for 12-24 hours or golf grip tape remover for the same amount of time. It will loosen the glue and dissolve most of it. Once you pull the bezel out of the solution start trying to turn the insert (spin) inside the bezel, once it starts to turn it has been released from remaining glue and can be safely removed. Make sure to clean all the solution off of the parts once finished or new glue/tape will not stick.

 

[derjenigewelcher]

@JTB16635 i dont know why, but i cant quote your message, so i answer this way:
i never in my life had a insert broken. the key is not building up tension, you just go with a screwdriver between bezel and insert, and run around multiple times.

 

[JTB16635]

@JTB16635 i dont know why, but i cant quote your message, so i answer this way:
i never in my life had a insert broken. the key is not building up tension, you just go with a screwdriver between bezel and insert, and run around multiple times.

the procedure I laid out also works if you don't want to take the bezel off the watch. Just pour enough solution so only the bezel is submerged in a container. I've only ever had one break. It can get finicky pressing one in an actual Rolly. Maybe that's why the clones undersize them to need tape/glue

 

[Justin_thyme]

@JTB16635 i dont know why, but i cant quote your message, so i answer this way:
i never in my life had a insert broken. the key is not building up tension, you just go with a screwdriver between bezel and insert, and run around multiple times.

isnt the key to build up tension and release it all at once?

 

[derjenigewelcher]

Video Added with click sound and nonwobblyness on bottom of 1. post:

https://imgur.com/a/CY6KgoZ

 

[Justin_thyme]

Video Added with click sound and nonwobblyness on bottom of 1. post:

https://imgur.com/a/CY6KgoZ

nice. gets rid of the backplay and adds more feel but sounds pretty loud and clicky imo

 

[derjenigewelcher]

nice. gets rid of the backplay and adds more feel but sounds pretty loud and clicky imo

Smartphone microphone, its not to loud/clicky IMO.

 

[JTB16635]

Purchased this Clean Batgirl the other day from a member. Did a bunch of stuff to it; lapped the sides/polished, replaced bracelet with an Oyster with glidelock, lowered the crystal gasket as far as I could go to try and get correct cyclopes magnification, regulated movement, ultra sonic cleaning, and of course cleaning up the bezel action and doing the bezel mod. The bezel action had a tremendous amount of slop (which I was aware of when purchasing) Here is a video of the bezel action once finished.

GMT Bezel

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[derjenigewelcher]

Purchased this Clean Batgirl the other day from a member. Did a bunch of stuff to it; lapped the sides/polished, replaced bracelet with an Oyster with glidelock, lowered the crystal gasket as far as I could go to try and get correct cyclopes magnification, regulated movement, ultra sonic cleaning, and of course cleaning up the bezel action and doing the bezel mod. The bezel action had a tremendous amount of slop (which I was aware of when purchasing) Here is a video of the bezel action once finished.

GMT Bezel

This is "GMT Bezel" by J on Vimeo, the home for high quality videos and the people who love them.

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Welcome to the gang

Perfect job. Everyone with a bezel click fetish will love it, thanks for shareing.

 

[JTB16635]

Welcome to the gang

Perfect job. Everyone with a bezel click fetish will love it, thanks for shareing.

Thanks! My second GMT bezel fix. Went super smooth. Wish I'd have done a video of the before. It had crazy play in the bezel action.

 

[Meson]

Hello everyone I have a problem I have a clean Pepsi v 3 appeno I thought so until I took off the bezel because the ceramic bezel came out a little from the steel bezel and here I found the surprise I state that the movement inside is very well done the ci turino and ok the ceramic bezel is not of perfect colour............ I'll put some photos to let you see what I'm talking about
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[derjenigewelcher]

Hello everyone I have a problem I have a clean Pepsi v 3 appeno I thought so until I took off the bezel because the ceramic bezel came out a little from the steel bezel and here I found the surprise I state that the movement inside is very well done the ci turino and ok the ceramic bezel is not of perfect colour............ I'll put some photos to let you see what I'm talking about
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<img src="https://images.clickpix.org/2OFxpi.jpeg" alt="2OFxpi.jpeg" border="0">

You got a "VSF", not a CLEAN GMT Master. You should have stickend to Trusted Dealer of RWI to get what you pay for.
Although its a good watch, you got the not-genspec bezel type and mostly important not the DanDong 3285 movement but the VR3186.

 

[Meson]

You got a "VSF", not a CLEAN GMT Master. You should have stickend to Trusted Dealer of RWI to get what you pay for.
Although its a good watch, you got the not-genspec bezel type and mostly important not the DanDong 3285 movement but the VR3186.

I'm not even sure it's vsf when I took off the bezel and the glass also came off and I put it back just by pushing it with my fingers and the bezel is strange it seems lower I'm attaching these two photos for you to see tonight I'll do more the movement it seems to be the clean one mhaa

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[derjenigewelcher]

I'm not even sure it's vsf when I took off the bezel and the glass also came off and I put it back just by pushing it with my fingers and the bezel is strange it seems lower I'm attaching these two photos for you to see tonight I'll do more the movement it seems to be the clean one mhaa

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I dont see the balance wheel, you cover it. It could also be a VR3285.
@KJ2020 maybe can help. AFAIK the "VSF" (GSC) is the only gmt master with this bezel.

 

[KJ2020]

I'm not even sure it's vsf when I took off the bezel and the glass also came off and I put it back just by pushing it with my fingers and the bezel is strange it seems lower I'm attaching these two photos for you to see tonight I'll do more the movement it seems to be the clean one mhaa

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A pic showing the balance assembly completely visible is always best when trying to ID a movement. However as @derjenigewelcher stated, VSF (GSF) is the only factory using the Rollerball bezel.

A different type of rep GMT bezel - The Rollerball!

That is an SH/VR3285 - you can tell by the triangular hole in the rotor screw head, and the tiny setting wheel pivot in the train bridge. This is a hybrid movement, the setting wheel is a carryover from the 3186 part.

The DD3285 and gen have a different setting wheel configuration with a much larger gear post visible through the hole in the train bridge. See pic of gen below.

So apparently VSF has begun using the SH/VR3285 despite TD ads still listing the VR3186. Your watch is not from CLEAN and only CLEAN uses the best available DD3285.

 

[Meson]

Okk so you say it's a VSF but now I have a problem I should change the ring for he this one that mounts now is strange I mean it's lower in fact the ceramic bezel protrudes as you can see from the previously posted photo where can I find it ?? And which one is compatible ?? Thank you...