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The SH4401 is imminent... AP chrono fans rejoice

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Would this movement be able to be used to build a 26331?
 

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Would this movement be able to be used to build a 26331?
@legend may know if the gen/rep 26331 dials, hands and DWs will be compatible with this new clone movement. I think the 4401 movement won't fit the 26331 CNC case because both the 4401 movement and its case are thicker than those of the 26331 watch.
 
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@legend may know if the gen/rep 26331 dials, hands and DWs will be compatible with this new clone movement. I think the 4401 movement won't fit the 26331 CNC case because both the 4401 movement and its case are thicker than those of the 26331 watch.
Likely no because the dw position of the 26331 dial, and the dw position on the 26240 are different, even if the rest can be modded to fit.
 

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That's what I thought too but some TD had told people to hold off on their 26331 builds because it would be much more economical to build an AP Chrono with this upcoming SH4401, but I guess they were referring to the 26240. Personally I prefer the 26331 with their contrasting sub dials to the 26240
 

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This movement will be for the 26420 not the 26331.
Well, if it is not for the 26331 (41mm), it is definitely not for the 26715 (38mm) which is my preference. The 26420 (43mm), despite its amazing designs, is simply too big to my liking. I'm still undecided about the 26311.

It's good to know that a rep AP chrono is in the works and may be in production soon.
 

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Taking this into a slightly different direction but I did a full blown 26331ST build (Panda) with a gen 1185 movement. It is absolutely stunning. That said, I am having issues with the movement (doesn’t reliable run when fully wound, but then starts running when I start the chrono). This limits how much I can wear it and I’d love to fix it. Is there a good US-based watchmaker who can service this 1185 movement?
 

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Taking this into a slightly different direction but I did a full blown 26331ST build (Panda) with a gen 1185 movement. It is absolutely stunning. That said, I am having issues with the movement (doesn’t reliable run when fully wound, but then starts running when I start the chrono). This limits how much I can wear it and I’d love to fix it. Is there a good US-based watchmaker who can service this 1185 movement?
Interesting, thought it would be pretty reliable being a gen movement
 

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Interesting, thought it would be pretty reliable being a gen movement
The gen 1185 movement isn’t the best one where luxury watch chrono calibers go. There are several inherent issues with it. You can do a google search and learn this easily.
The cal 4401/4404 are also not perfectly reliable as AP has done a silent recall for the caliber, over the issue of the minute counter hand creeping on its own due to a defective brake issue. This has been only resolved for the late 2023 onward batches.
 

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Taking this into a slightly different direction but I did a full blown 26331ST build (Panda) with a gen 1185 movement. It is absolutely stunning. That said, I am having issues with the movement (doesn’t reliable run when fully wound, but then starts running when I start the chrono). This limits how much I can wear it and I’d love to fix it. Is there a good US-based watchmaker who can service this 1185 movement?
May I ask how much you paid for it? How much do these go for?

I’ve seen them being offered but didn’t inquire the price because of my budget constraints.
 

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This movement will be for the 26420 not the 26331.

That's what I thought too but some TD had told people to hold off on their 26331 builds because it would be much more economical to build an AP Chrono with this upcoming SH4401, but I guess they were referring to the 26240. Personally I prefer the 26331 with their contrasting sub dials to the 26240

Oddly enough, personally I feel the movement maker in question should have repped the 1185 rather than the 4401. As we know the 1185 by F. Piguet is used in several different watches, Blancpains, Omegas, VC's etc. so this movement could have had many applications.

What we can only assume is that the rep factories want the latest and greatest so they went with the 4401 which at this point can only power 1 watch model. Oh well, this is certainly exciting regardless!
 
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Oddly enough, personally I feel the movement maker in question should have repped the 1185 rather than the 4401. As we know the 1185 by F. Piguet is used in several different watches, Blancpains, Omegas, VC's etc. so this movement could have had many applications.

What we can only assume is that the rep factories want the latest and greatest so they went with the 4401 which at this point can only power 1 watch model. Oh well, this is certainly exciting regardless!
1185 is a rather thin movement which might make it difficult to be successfully rapped for the factories.
 

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Personally, I prefer the offshores of the old days, but with a clone chrono movement coming up, definitely no harm to try the 26240 in future
My dream would be a 39mm chronograph rep but that's not happening.