Yeah. With the price of the gen, the parts and the work fee, you are looking north of 500€
Not worth it IMHO
Much better to get yourself a rep and do the metal mod. This way you have two watches to play
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Yeah. With the price of the gen, the parts and the work fee, you are looking north of 500€
Not worth it IMHO
Much better to get yourself a rep and do the metal mod. This way you have two watches to play
Wow! You’ve earned my respect for not tossing in the towel.
I’m not familiar with the VK63 case and, without pictures, I can only guess. It’s possible that you may not need to shorten the pushers if it was only to insert the movement. Removing the pushers, will give you more room and you can reinstall them after the movement is in place. If they are actually too long, then a little haircut is obviously needed.
One thing not mentioned. Is your stem height. How does it line up with the case? Before buying a new case, double check stem height alignment. Too far off and you’ll need to pick a different case or this project is not going to end well.
That ring sounds like it might be a movement holder. If you could straighten the thing out, you may be able to repurpose it (with modifications?) to hold your movement in the new case. Again, without photos, I’m just tossing out my best guess.
Otherwise, if you measure the gap between the new case and the movement, you can purchase a plastic movement holder (or two in case things go sideways with the first) on AliEx. The nice think about the plastic holders is they are easy to modify and dirt cheap.
Cutting the stem should not be done until you have the movement properly seated in the case. Let’s get you to that point first…then you can post pictures and we can talk about sizing the stem. In the meantime, when you are ordering parts, it may be a good idea to pick up an extra stem or two.
@Pinion Minion @Slugger
Let’s be honest with ourselves
All three of us would love to get hold of that project and fix it
Let’s be honest with ourselves
All three of us would love to get hold of that project and fix it
Brother…you know me too well. I love the challenge though therapy would probably be cheaper.@Pinion Minion @Slugger
Let’s be honest with ourselves
All three of us would love to get hold of that project and fix it
Hi @Slugger and thank you. And thanks for everyone else who has responded as well - I can't believe how friendly everyone is!Wow! You’ve earned my respect for not tossing in the towel.
I’m not familiar with the VK63 case and, without pictures, I can only guess. It’s possible that you may not need to shorten the pushers if it was only to insert the movement. Removing the pushers, will give you more room and you can reinstall them after the movement is in place. If they are actually too long, then a little haircut is obviously needed.
One thing not mentioned. Is your stem height. How does it line up with the case? Before buying a new case, double check stem height alignment. Too far off and you’ll need to pick a different case or this project is not going to end well.
That ring sounds like it might be a movement holder. If you could straighten the thing out, you may be able to repurpose it (with modifications?) to hold your movement in the new case. Again, without photos, I’m just tossing out my best guess.
Otherwise, if you measure the gap between the new case and the movement, you can purchase a plastic movement holder (or two in case things go sideways with the first) on AliEx. The nice think about the plastic holders is they are easy to modify and dirt cheap.
Cutting the stem should not be done until you have the movement properly seated in the case. Let’s get you to that point first…then you can post pictures and we can talk about sizing the stem. In the meantime, when you are ordering parts, it may be a good idea to pick up an extra stem or two.
I have done a quick google for stem height, but can't find a definitive answer.
Am I right to assume it means where the stem sits in the crown (is it the hole the stem goes in on the case called the crown?) i.e. it should be in the centre of that hole? My stem was sitting just off-centre.
Don’t worry. The stem height is fine.
2.25mm VK63
1.77mm g10
even if it’s a bit off, it does not matter
You don’t need to handwind quartz, so there is no shearing
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How might one replace a pusher? This is the case I bought: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100....order_list.order_list_main.26.2b8a1802kzy0qQ
Hello, related to modding the pagani watch, it was super interesting to read you all! I'm super inspired to mod mine thank you for this well of info. I just wanted to do one more mod on it: does any of you know if it's possible to change the screw caseback of the Pagani PD1701 V3 for a sapphire exhibition one from Spiralwinder? I was thinking of the one meant for caliber 3861 for the newest moonwatch. I can't find any info on the diameter or thread of pagani's or omega's...
Are you thinking of doing a display caseback with a quartz? It wouldn't be very attractive.
Why would you do this?
Even if you put the ETA G10, it is still an ugly ass quartz. No rotor, not visible gears, just a slab of metal and plastic
I think it would be hilarious to stick a life-sized photo of a 3861 movement behind the exhibition case back.
The Moonswatch mod is already shameless…this would bring shamelessness to another level altogether
People are probably gonna scream at my response but I want to put a picture of my family in the exhibition caseback, like those pocket watch or neck watch from the beginning of watches. I want my watch, the piece that i'll wear most often on me to remind me of what matters, TIME with my FAMILY. I wanted indeed a quartz movement so that the picture wouldn't interfere with the movement. Also, I think 0.1 (or whatever is the actual thickness of a picture paper is) is gonna be fine and not put too much pressure on the quartz and the dial.
I imagine the following scenario (going too much in detail here ahaha): the whole day, watching time, then at night, removing the watch and seeing my family in the caseback. Thank you all if any of you have any clue. I actually heard in a youtube video that the pagani v3 was modelled after the 1861 if that's of any help. on the side, i'm also trying to contact spiralwinder to give me a measurement of the thread.
I imagine the following scenario (going too much in detail here ahaha): the whole day, watching time, then at night, removing the watch and seeing my family in the caseback. Thank you all if any of you have any clue. I actually heard in a youtube video that the pagani v3 was modelled after the 1861 if that's of any help. on the side, i'm also trying to contact spiralwinder to give me a measurement of the thread.
Personally, I love messing with things and marching to the beat of our own drummer is really quite satisfying.
@mawopo I say go for it! Have fun and I'd love to see the final product but it would be a good idea to blur out the faces because the Internet is a very weird place to be posting family photos without taking some precautions.
@mawopo I say go for it! Have fun and I'd love to see the final product but it would be a good idea to blur out the faces because the Internet is a very weird place to be posting family photos without taking some precautions.
Long time watcher in the dark…first time builder!
Wanted to keep it simple and just do the sub-dial freeze mod in a metal case as it would be my first build.
Found this thread and plans changed
I ended up using 3 watches to create the ultimate moonswitch build:
Used all the recommendations from this thread and Another Moonswatch metal case project.
- W77 Mission to the Moon
- Jason007 Speedy Rep
- Swatch Irony Chrono
Most valuable of all was the personal support from @Slugger over the weeks I have been researching and building the mod. Happy to call him my mentor!
First trial build with the vk63 hour and minute hands from the speedy rep and the swatch sweep second hand. I was not brave enough to try broaching and just used suitable hands.
The moment I dropped the movement into the vk63 case and tried the pushers, nothing happened. The movement and pushers were misaligned and needed a 1mm spacer.
Used a (Speedy 3861 esque) ETA 2824 sweep second hand, as it was plug and play! Although the moonshine gold homage is cool, considering getting a silver one for harmony with all the steel
More pics:
Shoutout to @Caboose and @Karbon74 for their contributions to the community.
So, regarding compatibility with the G10 movement, if I understand correctly:
Seconds: Eta2824
Minutes and hours: VK63
Small hands: Vk63
Right?
You could also go with ETA 2824 for hour (150) and minute (90) hands as well as the sweep second hand (25).
I’m seeing conflicting sizes for the Hattori VK63 minute hand. According to the spec sheet, the minute hand (88) may be a bit snug and require very minimal broaching; however, sources like calibre corner say it is 90 which would be spot on. I’ve not tried it myself. Just passing on my research.
Regardless if it is 88 or 90, we’re talking a .02mm difference which is easily dealt with. My reason for mentioning the potential for the VK63 hand beeing a bit snug is just to offer a heads up. If it resists seating on the pinion, don’t force it. Just give it a very light broaching and you should be good to go.