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ra1n

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I will do at least Gen vs Noob V11 vs ARF V4 vs ZF vs ZZF vs RXF, I dont think I will hide factory names, should I?

Not exactly hide it, but play the guessing game, which do you think which factory, just an idea.
 

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Example with a rep 6 digit crystal (this is supposed to be the best rep crystal available from the factories regarding black hole) ARF 116710:

When seen straight on, you can't see the halo effect, it's not noticeable, while in the gen there is a very crisp white border, in the rep there is only a very thin white line, but no distinct separation between crystal and cyclops





As soon as you tilt it the AR is almost non existent, you see many reflections, even if it should be crisp and deep black, you shouldn't see those weird lights in it:





Hopefully I was clear in my explanation puretime

I know what a black hole effect is my friend, I need to know the condition which I can recreate this effect, your pics only showing how the black hold effect looks like. I need to know the lighting environment like where the light source is, and which direction the watch should face and the camera dorection.

No worries no need more pics, I will try when I have all the watches. Thanks again
 
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Some factories have some iconic features and it is not hard to guess which factory. I will think about this. Thanks for the advice :)

What kind of sick person would ask us to play a guessing game? Angus please do not listen and Just tell us the factories please. We are paying excess of 500 dollars and want to get the best information possible. Thank you
 

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I know what a black hole effect is my friend, I need to know the condition which I can recreate this effect, your pics only showing how the black hold effect looks like. I need to know the lighting environment like where the light source is, and which direction the watch should face and the camera dorection.

No worries no need more pics, I will try when I have all the watches. Thanks again

No problem, you don't really need that amount of information, and by the way, i did tell you how to do it in a previous post, with a lot of pictures and explanations.

It's very easy to recreate and you really don't need to know the perfect camera angle or whatever, it's literally an effect that happens constantly while wearing the watch and moving your wrist, it's not something rare or special, it's always there
 

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Many people liked and said thanks for my post, i thought it was quite clear how to recreate it, how come you are the only one who didn't get it, if you want i can try explaining again, maybe with a video lol

I need to know the lighting environment like where the light source is, and which direction the watch should face and the camera dorection.


I literally wrote all these information in my previous post...
 
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Many people liked and said thanks for my post, i thought it was quite clear how to recreate it, how come you are the only one who didn't get it, if you want i can try explaining again, maybe with a video lol




I literally wrote all these information in my previous post...
mari115
 

puretime

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What kind of sick person would ask us to play a guessing game? Angus please do not listen and Just tell us the factories please. We are paying excess of 500 dollars and want to get the best information possible. Thank you

Haha some people may want to test themselves how familiar they are to different versions :)

No problem, you don't really need that amount of information, and by the way, i did tell you how to do it in a previous post, with a lot of pictures and explanations.

It's very easy to recreate and you really don't need to know the perfect camera angle or whatever, it's literally an effect that happens constantly while wearing the watch and moving your wrist, it's not something rare or special, it's always there

I did try many times without success so I think this only occurs in some specific lighting conditions, I think it will be very hard to tell if the watch us on someone else wrist.

Anyways I will try again when I have the watches.
 

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We all hope that the ARF V4 will have an improved crystal and cyclops but I think spec are alerdy sent part are alerady manufactured or finishing to be manufactured and they are most likely gathering part and assy watches time. So imo dont put to much expectation on it :(
 

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We all hope that the ARF V4 will have an improved crystal and cyclops but I think spec are alerdy sent part are alerady manufactured or finishing to be manufactured and they are most likely gathering part and assy watches time. So imo dont put to much expectation on it :(

They will have an improved crystal and cyclops, but since I have not seen it and I cannot tell how much better it is.
 

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maybe photos like this side by side helped?

20200917-212545.jpg



VRF with gen crystal & date wheel.
 
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mari115

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It's not "very hard to notice" at all lmao.

Let's not talk bullshit.

The rep crystals are the biggest tell of any rep at the moment on the wrist.
 
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Cyclops clarity and DW are much more important than the black hole effect because it only occurs at a certain angle and lighting condition.

Sure, but DW is almost a given now (except ARF's DW since it's badly printed and a couple of other minor examples).

I agree with you about clarity, i'm pretty sure that all of this goes together.

But saying that the black hole "only" occurs at a certain angle and lightning condition is just minimizing and belittling the problem, you just have to be indoors for it to occur.

Basically it doesn't occur only when you are under direct artificial led lightning or when you are out in the sun, it occurs almost any other time.

Hopefully we can have superior crystals for these new releases, since they got hyped this much and we apparently "don't need to hope anymore" for a good crystal.
 
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