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Yep, and it'sby far the best rep crystal ever. and that was NOT hyped at all.

So we were expecting ZF to live up to the hype, but sadly not.

558 zf vs 388 rxf and rxf seems to have a better crystal

What's wrong with ZF crystal? Have you seen both in person?
 
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What's wrong with ZF crystal? Have you seen both in person?

We commented the blue hue of the crystal in the other thread! Personally I hope to be wrong, but I was expecting more, just from the pics RXF’s crystal seems better, we would like some IRL pictures tho, can you send a couple? So we can see the black hole and the halo effect!


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We commented the blue hue of the crystal in the other thread! Personally I hope to be wrong, but I was expecting more, just from the pics RXF’s crystal seems better, we would like some IRL pictures tho, can you send a couple? So we can see the black hole and the halo effect!


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I will do a comprehensive review on all the SUBs after the ARF V4 is released.
 

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The review will be broken down into several sections, I need your advice what (sub-sections) I need to consider.
1. Case (lugs, rehaut, CG, engravings between lugs, what else?)
2. Bezel (color, font, platinum plating quality, pearl, what else?)
3. Dial (printing, markers, lume, what else?)
4. Hands (what should I look for when comparing hands?)
5. Bracelet (build, brushing, SEL, engravings, clasp, what else?)
6, Movement (DW, PR, decoration, what else?)
7. General (SEL fitment, crystal sitting, gen feel, what else?)
8. Anything I missed?
 

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The review will be broken down into several sections, I need your advice what (sub-sections) I need to consider.
1. Case (lugs, rehaut, CG, engravings between lugs, what else?)
2. Bezel (color, font, platinum plating quality, pearl, what else?)
3. Dial (printing, markers, lume, what else?)
4. Hands (what should I look for when comparing hands?)
5. Bracelet (build, brushing, SEL, engravings, clasp, what else?)
6, Movement (DW, PR, decoration, what else?)
7. General (SEL fitment, crystal sitting, gen feel, what else?)
8. Anything I missed?

2. Add feel of the bezelaction/-rotation. Almos All reps feel reay really cheap in that regard.

7. Rounded edges on the clasp. ARF does a good Job on the deepsea. On the SD43 and Sub not nos much anymore...

8. Yup, how about the crystal in detail? :)

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2. Add feel of the bezelaction/-rotation. Almos All reps feel reay really cheap in that regard.

7. Rounded edges on the clasp. ARF does a good Job on the deepsea. On the SD43 and Sub not nos much anymore...

8. Yup, how about the crystal in detail? :)

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1. Case (lugs, rehaut, CG, engravings between lugs, what else?)
2. Bezel (color, font, platinum plating quality, pearl, feel of the bezelaction/-rotation, what else?)
3. Dial (printing, markers, lume, what else?)
4. Hands (what should I look for when comparing hands?)
5. Bracelet (build, brushing, SEL, engravings, clasp, what else?)
6, Movement (DW, PR, decoration, what else?)
7. General (SEL fitment, crystal sitting, gen feel, what else?)
8. Crystal (cyclops, ar, what else?)
9. Anything I missed?

What is the rounded edges on the clasp? Do you have a pic?
 

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1. Case (lugs, rehaut, CG, engravings between lugs, what else?)
2. Bezel (color, font, platinum plating quality, pearl, feel of the bezelaction/-rotation, what else?)
3. Dial (printing, markers, lume, what else?)
4. Hands (what should I look for when comparing hands?)
5. Bracelet (build, brushing, SEL, engravings, clasp, what else?)
6, Movement (DW, PR, decoration, what else?)
7. General (SEL fitment, crystal sitting, gen feel, what else?)
8. Crystal (cyclops, ar, what else?)
9. Anything I missed?

What is the rounded edges on the clasp? Do you have a pic?

Of course my friend here you go.

So this is how they look these days:

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And this is how it should be looking, ass sen on mine as an example. All the edges are rounded/beveled/ ans polished.

Btw both are ARF!

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Marked the main areas here :

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Also there should be a gab betwen the langer part and the safety leaver



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Thanks and list updated

1. Case (lugs, rehaut, CG, engravings between lugs, what else?)
2. Bezel (color, font, platinum plating quality, pearl, feel of the bezelaction/-rotation, what else?)
3. Dial (printing, markers, lume, what else?)
4. Hands (what should I look for when comparing hands?)
5. Bracelet (rounded edges, build, brushing, SEL, engravings, clasp, what else?)
6, Movement (DW, PR, decoration, what else?)
7. General (SEL fitment, crystal sitting, gen feel, what else?)
8. Crystal (cyclops, ar, what else?)
9. Anything I missed?
 
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Thanks and list updated

1. Case (lugs, rehaut, CG, engravings between lugs, what else?)
2. Bezel (color, font, platinum plating quality, pearl, feel of the bezelaction/-rotation, what else?)
3. Dial (printing, markers, lume, what else?)
4. Hands (what should I look for when comparing hands?)
5. Bracelet (rounded edges, build, brushing, SEL, engravings, clasp, what else?)
6, Movement (DW, PR, decoration, what else?)
7. General (SEL fitment, crystal sitting, gen feel, what else?)
8. Crystal (cyclops, ar, what else?)
9. Anything I missed?

8. Crystal (cyclops, Black hole, what else?)
 

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Thanks and list updated

1. Case (lugs, rehaut, CG, engravings between lugs, what else?)
2. Bezel (color, font, platinum plating quality, pearl, feel of the bezelaction/-rotation, what else?)
3. Dial (printing, markers, lume, what else?)
4. Hands (what should I look for when comparing hands?)
5. Bracelet (rounded edges, build, brushing, SEL, engravings, clasp, what else?)
6, Movement (DW, PR, decoration, what else?)
7. General (SEL fitment, crystal sitting, gen feel, what else?)
8. Crystal (cyclops, ar, what else?)
9. Anything I missed?
No need to thank me bud.

I just don't know why they stopped puting in the effort. This in particular you can see from like 2 meters without any struggle

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Of course my friend here you go.

So this is how they look these days:

e73229259fd8ae944e4a36562f9ebb87.jpg


And this is how it should be looking, ass sen on mine as an example. All the edges are rounded/beveled/ ans polished.

Btw both are ARF!

9e98acb1a6ebac4dabc949f7f1dbfebd.jpg


Marked the main areas here :

9043ee322c94b818df7eadb44b91ca5b.jpg


9f63f09980ee1f39fbdfb7517449c5eb.jpg


Also there should be a gab betwen the langer part and the safety leaver



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also rounded edges inner links of the bracelet


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also rounded edges inner links of the bracelet


A407-D9-AD-C9-FA-4-A1-A-9561-13-E91-E95-A369.jpg
Never seen a gen with rounded edges on the inner links of the bracelet...

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Never seen a gen with rounded edges on the inner links of the bracelet...

genuine bracelet is soft like butter. I have tried many replicas and with arf bracelet and it is not as soft and comfortable as the gen
 
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genuine bracelet is soft as butter. I have tried many replicas and with arf bracelet and it is not as soft and comfortable as the gen
Def. Agree on that :)

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I will try my best since I have not successfully generated black hole effect yet haha, I dont know what lighting condition it will appear
The easiest would be to use the reflection of an window

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Is there a pictorial?
Just go to a window and try to catxh/captufe the reflection on the xtal. Best would be if the sun is not shining directly on it, just the sky. Then you should be able to see, that the Cyclops is not reflecting. Creating a Black hole in the reflection so to say haha.

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