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The 1016: The Under Appreciated Thread

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The world will be in serious trouble if any of us find a supply of fissionable material, as we wouldn't be able to help ourselves...but boy, wouldn't our lume light up the night

Italy and France are the only two places on Earth where you can have good expresso almost anywhere as a standard.

Not saying that it does not exist elsewhere, but a real expresso would only be served in pretentious places at extortionate prices
Espresso in Portugal is both excellent and dirt cheap - otherwise there would be a riot!
 

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I think I showed these to you before.
They also have an MK3 with a Tiffany stamp



I'm just really unsure about what to do.
The MK1 one seems good.. too good to be true..
Manodeoro said he will sort out the lume.
Only problem with the mk1 is that it lacks sheriffs on the 369.
Manodeoro has not been online for a while, hope he is okay..
I have a 1675 in the mail. I'll be able to confirm if the seller is legit.
 
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There appears to be two examples on the net of the prototype commando . The one above with the merc hands and this one with the sword hands and lume.

(info found on another watch site )


The photo is that of the seller (on the bay)

Here is the description made by the said seller:

Model Name: COMMANDO
Ref: 6429/3764490
Gender: MEN`S size
Bezel: 100% ORIGINAL STAINLESS STEEL FIX BEZEL, GREAT CONDITION
Case: 100% AUTHENTIC STAINLESS STEEL, 36 MM INCLUDING CROWN, (GREAT CONDITION)
Crown: 100% ORIGINAL STAINLESS STEEL CROWN SIGN ROLEX LOGO (GREAT CONDITION)
Movement: 100% ORIGINAL MANUAL MOVEMENT SIGN ROLEX, GREAT RUNNING CONDITION
Dial: 100% WHITE DIAL SIGN ROLEX COMMANDO MILITARY (GOOD CONDITION)
Crystal: ACRYLIC (GREAT condition)

I want to build one. stay tuned.
 
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There appears to be two examples on the net of the prototype commando . The one above with the merc hands and this one with the sword hands and lume.

(info found on another watch site )


The photo is that of the seller (on the bay)

Here is the description made by the said seller:

Model Name: COMMANDO
Ref: 6429/3764490
Gender: MEN`S size
Bezel: 100% ORIGINAL STAINLESS STEEL FIX BEZEL, GREAT CONDITION
Case: 100% AUTHENTIC STAINLESS STEEL, 36 MM INCLUDING CROWN, (GREAT CONDITION)
Crown: 100% ORIGINAL STAINLESS STEEL CROWN SIGN ROLEX LOGO (GREAT CONDITION)
Movement: 100% ORIGINAL MANUAL MOVEMENT SIGN ROLEX, GREAT RUNNING CONDITION
Dial: 100% WHITE DIAL SIGN ROLEX COMMANDO MILITARY (GOOD CONDITION)
Crystal: ACRYLIC (GREAT condition)

I want to build one. stay tuned.
the movement of the Commando is supposed to be manual winding... but on the dial it says Oyster Perpetual and not just Oyster, as in manual winding... is this normal? Am I wrong?
 
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the movement of the Commando is supposed to be manual winding... but on the dial it says Oyster Perpetual and not just Oyster, as in manual winding... is this normal? Am I wrong?
Commandos should all have manual movements, although anything probably goes with a prototype, since they probably mocked them up with parts on hand.
 

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stunner. can you share yoyr parts list? Time for me to build one too!!
Sure:
the gen commando is based off the 6426 which is 34 and I may machine down the dial to 28mm to fit into a 34mm case but this dial is intended for his 36mm explorer case.

raffles 36 mm explorer case-
T22 crystal and 1016L bezel
Eta 2824 movement
raffles commando dial - aged to perfection
raffles commando sword hands eta aged to match dial
 

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Sure:
the gen commando is based off the 6426 which is 34 and I may machine down the dial to 28mm to fit into a 34mm case but this dial is intended for his 36mm explorer case.

raffles 36 mm explorer case-
T22 crystal and 1016L bezel
Eta 2824 movement
raffles commando dial - aged to perfection
raffles commando sword hands eta aged to match dial
Why don’t you use the 34 mm case on raffles site ? I used that
 

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Why don’t you use the 34 mm case on raffles site ? I used that
The dial is made for the 36mm case set
I will need to machined the dial diameter down to fit the 34mm case , which I may do. I have done it before with the raffles small rose ranger dial. He had them made for the 36mm case but I was able to cram it into a 34 case by reducing size of the dial and opening the rehaut.
 

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The dial is made for the 36mm case set
I will need to machined the dial diameter down to fit the 34mm case , which I may do. I have done it before with the raffles small rose ranger dial. He had them made for the 36mm case but I was able to cram it into a 34 case by reducing size of the dial and opening the rehaut.
Are you talking about the commando dial from raffles? This will fit without any modification in the 34 mm raffles case , Ive just built it , I can post photos tomorrow
 
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Are you talking about the commando dial from raffles? This will fit without any modification in the 34 mm raffles case , Ive just built it , I can post photos tomo


I am talking about the prototype dial not the standard commando dial

the albino prototype dial will need to be motified to fit a 34mm case because it is designed for the 36mm case as it is on a 28.5mm dial plate
 
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Awesome. Will you be able to measure the diameter ?
Have not had a chance to measure with a caliper, but it seems a hair bigger than 27.3. Here's a picture next to a failed gilt and the first genuine sized Raffles 1675. Now, you've got me nervous! I'll definitely follow up with specifics.
Also, the date window looks a little bigger. Perhaps it's for a true 1520/1570 instead of the 3135 standard? I don't know. Dial quality looks great though. Even better, seller claims it's solvent based (so accidental moisture shouldn't make the text and lume melt away like some Vietnam dials). I'm assuming that part is true though. I contacted him to make sure I didn't try to lume the dial with some chemical that makes it start to boil off.

 

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Have not had a chance to measure with a caliper, but it seems a hair bigger than 27.3. Here's a picture next to a failed gilt and the first genuine sized Raffles 1675. Now, you've got me nervous! I'll definitely follow up with specifics.
Also, the date window looks a little bigger. Perhaps it's for a true 1520/1570 instead of the 3135 standard? I don't know. Dial quality looks great though. Even better, seller claims it's solvent based (so accidental moisture shouldn't make the text and lume melt away like some Vietnam dials). I'm assuming that part is true though. I contacted him to make sure I didn't try to lume the dial with some chemical that makes it start to boil off.

They confirmed that the dial is 28mm. The listing info is wrong.
 
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