The 1016: The Under Appreciated Thread

[369mafia]

Who's experienced with the coffee dial patina method?

Just did a dry and wet run with a raffles 6610 and, whilst the patina on the numbers is great, the dial itself has some no-so-great marks on its face.

Any idea how I can remove these?

Rodico?

Or does one just go with it?

If you only wanted to age the lume with coffee , you should have only applied it to the lume.
You can probably use some water and a q tip , foam tip or micro fiber cloth to remove the water marks from the dial but I think they add to the aged appearance of the dial , It looks like a wear worn tool watch now. Heck you could probably use sand paper on a raffles dial and wont damage it lol jk dont use sandpaper. but his dials are quite durable.

I did similar aging to my 6610 but with diluted water based paints.

 

[Karbon74]

Who's experienced with the coffee dial patina method?

Just did a dry and wet run with a raffles 6610 and, whilst the patina on the numbers is great, the dial itself has some no-so-great marks on its face.

Any idea how I can remove these?

Rodico?

Or does one just go with it?

You can use a little soapy water and a microfiber
You can also use a microfiber and furniture polish on the cloth

When you are done, rinse with demineralised water

 

[Karbon74]

As per @369mafia, if you like the lume as is, then you can use a q tip and furniture polish to gently wipe the dial and avoid the lume

 

[Karbon74]

It’s alright to have some remnants marks. But I don’t like obvious liquid stains

One thing that i have also used is a small brush, cut short. Then furniture polish and tap tap tap randomly. Rinse, tap tap tap

This gives a random pattern

Last thing, on such a dial, you need to seal the ageing with glossy varnish afterwards. Else it can diffuse into the watch over time

 

[1675lover]

i would put it in the case and take a look.
who knows, u might like it!

 

[Karbon74]

i would put it in the case and take a look.
who knows, u might like it!

Lazy bugger

 

[Caboose]

Who's experienced with the coffee dial patina method?

Just did a dry and wet run with a raffles 6610 and, whilst the patina on the numbers is great, the dial itself has some no-so-great marks on its face.

Any idea how I can remove these?

Rodico?

Or does one just go with it?

@Natas78 is an expert at coffee aging, you should ask him. I have also dabbled in it...

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As you did that one wet, it is tough to remove the age from the non-lume part of the dial without water and a paper towel (or even better a non-fibrous cloth!). This is why I age dry. I do LOVE the "water damage" you've simulated, and some rusted hands would look amazing with the dial as-is.

 

[Karbon74]

You use Tamiya ?
I am thinking of trying this but I am concerned about the oneshot cannot correct

 

[Caboose]

Here's some rusted hands I've been doing for future builds. Some are actually rusted, some are fake rusted. All look cool and will pair nicely with water damaged or tropical dials!

 

[Caboose]

You use Tamiya ?
I am thinking of trying this but I am concerned about the oneshot cannot correct

With Tamiya you can apply dry or wet. Both can be wiped off and done again. I've done some dials multiple times until I've gotten good results. Generally, I age the lume with wet Tamiya. Then I age the dial with dry Tamiya. You can always redo the dial. Lume is harder but doable.

 

[1016_idiot_savant]

Who's experienced with the coffee dial patina method?

Just did a dry and wet run with a raffles 6610 and, whilst the patina on the numbers is great, the dial itself has some no-so-great marks on its face.

Any idea how I can remove these?

Rodico?

Or does one just go with it?

I would definitely not just go with it, but see it as a feature! Exactly the same happened with my 6610 dial, and it gives a very authentic patina when cased up!

 

[369mafia]

With Tamiya you can apply dry or wet. Both can be wiped off and done again. I've done some dials multiple times until I've gotten good results. Generally, I age the lume with wet Tamiya. Then I age the dial with dry Tamiya. You can always redo the dial. Lume is harder but doable.

Ive never tried it wet ...

 

[nomorebigideas]

Thank you for all the replies and great knowledge!

I've really enjoyed the aging process, maybe even more than the actual end product.

In the end though, I'm trying to make this build seem realistic, and so the obviously water damage is out of scope.

Here's what I've ended up with!

Hands are coffee aged, dry.
Dial is coffee aged, dry and wet.
Dial has been rubbed back with furniture polish to get some the sheen back.

This build is modelled on two actual models (6610; 5510) so there's a reference to the patina I'm trying to achieve.

Any feedback/advice much appreciated - this is my first ever build - I'm a complete n00b!

 

[Karbon74]

It’s really nice
Seems we got ourselves a new brother

 

[Erect]

Thank you for all the replies and great knowledge!

I've really enjoyed the aging process, maybe even more than the actual end product.

In the end though, I'm trying to make this build seem realistic, and so the obviously water damage is out of scope.

Here's what I've ended up with!

Hands are coffee aged, dry.
Dial is coffee aged, dry and wet.
Dial has been rubbed back with furniture polish to get some the sheen back.

This build is modelled on two actual models (6610; 5510) so there's a reference to the patina I'm trying to achieve.

Any feedback/advice much appreciated - this is my first ever build - I'm a complete n00b!

That is very hot. A white lollipop seconds hand would definitely…

 

[Natas78]

@Natas78 is an expert at coffee aging, you should ask him. I have also dabbled in it...

The secret is using Kopi Luak straight from the source!

 

[Magnetik_Snake]

Thank you for all the replies and great knowledge!

I've really enjoyed the aging process, maybe even more than the actual end product.

In the end though, I'm trying to make this build seem realistic, and so the obviously water damage is out of scope.

Here's what I've ended up with!

Hands are coffee aged, dry.
Dial is coffee aged, dry and wet.
Dial has been rubbed back with furniture polish to get some the sheen back.

This build is modelled on two actual models (6610; 5510) so there's a reference to the patina I'm trying to achieve.

Any feedback/advice much appreciated - this is my first ever build - I'm a complete n00b!

Amazing job @nomorebigideas ! I love it!

Have you used the dry/wet coffee technique in the oven? Or liquid coffee and then baking?

 

[Erect]

Thank you for all the replies and great knowledge!

I've really enjoyed the aging process, maybe even more than the actual end product.

In the end though, I'm trying to make this build seem realistic, and so the obviously water damage is out of scope.

Here's what I've ended up with!

Hands are coffee aged, dry.
Dial is coffee aged, dry and wet.
Dial has been rubbed back with furniture polish to get some the sheen back.

This build is modelled on two actual models (6610; 5510) so there's a reference to the patina I'm trying to achieve.

Any feedback/advice much appreciated - this is my first ever build - I'm a complete n00b!

What did you use to age the hands?
And is it safe to say your hands are too short? The minute hand should touch the chapter ring, right?

 

[nomorebigideas]

Amazing job @nomorebigideas ! I love it!

Have you used the dry/wet coffee technique in the oven? Or liquid coffee and then baking?

Yeah, I did a dry coffee at 120c for the hands - they came out great first time.

For the dial, I did dry then wet (120c) but ended up cutting it a lot back with furniture polish (props to @369mafia and @Karbon74).

I don't like obvious stains as I think it's not realistic in most cases (not for a well built product that's been taken care of at least!) so moderation is key.

Do I need to rinse the dial under demineralised water now (post polish)?

Or do I just use some Rodico to remove the dust specs before casing?

@Erect - this is my reference page (https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/rolex-explorer-reference-points).

The model I'm building is the 'Reference 6610 (Smaller Lume Circle On Seconds Hand): 1959' (although I'm using a 28,800bph PT5x movement, so not 100% accurate lol).

 

[nomorebigideas]

But know I look at it @Erect you're right - it's a touch too long.

Problem is, as a n00b, I only know Raffles as the place to get these parts (expect there's one other that does the lollipop hands, right?).

I kinda hate my clasp cover (even though I'd beaten up my braclet etc) as it's not the correct logo placement.