The 1016: The Under Appreciated Thread

[Karbon74]

Hello team,
hope you don't mind changing the topic however still 1016 related.
For my build I got some nice 2mm spring bars, the problem is, they won't fit the raffles bracelets (tested on jubilee & rivet).
Do you guys have a solution for that?

Thanks!

you need to sand them down
(by themselves of course, not when mounted)

 

[Karbon74]

Why is everyone Ken? Rafflesdial, rafflestime and now the new ruby lol
Seem kinda sus to me

did I tell you that the K in Karbon stands for Ken?

 

[freebalkany]

you need to sand them down
(by themselves of course, not when mounted)

Sand the spring bars you mean?

 

[dpd3672]

Hello team,
hope you don't mind changing the topic however still 1016 related.
For my build I got some nice 2mm spring bars, the problem is, they won't fit the raffles bracelets (tested on jubilee & rivet).
Do you guys have a solution for that?

Thanks!

Yes, you have to modify the end links for the 2mm spring bars. There's a couple different methods.

You can ream out the end link to make the hole bigger: https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/how-to-mod-end-links-to-accept-2mm-spring-bars.9354149/

Or just use a hex wrench to force it wider (need to scroll down towards the end of the build): http://homage-forum.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=3687

You also need to modify the end link (as shown in the second link)

Both look the same when it's all said and done.

 

[freebalkany]

Yes, you have to modify the end links for the 2mm spring bars. There's a couple different methods.

You can ream out the end link to make the hole bigger: https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/how-to-mod-end-links-to-accept-2mm-spring-bars.9354149/

Or cut the end link (need to scroll down towards the end of the build): http://homage-forum.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=3687

Both look the same when it's all said and done.

Thank you,
there is a wealth of information in there.
So that also means, that if I need to remove material in the bracelet links, I should go for an oyster rather than a Jubilee.

 

[Karbon74]

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and ream it by hand. about 10m work
Dremel burr is good too but for fine work like this, I prefer control over speed.

For vintage bracelets, the center links are usually hollow, so you can also work them open with small jewelry pliers

 

[dpd3672]

Thank you,
there is a wealth of information in there.
So that also means, that if I need to remove material in the bracelet links, I should go for an oyster rather than a Jubilee.

I've never tried it on a Jubilee, but I would imagine it's the same process.

Jubilee has 2 smaller links to widen on the bracelet, rather than one bigger one, but the end link should be the same process as an Oyster.

I think the only complication is that those two little links in the Jubilee are sometimes hard to line up for reaming, and would require a little care to stretch them evenly, but neither issue would be insurmountable, just a little more attention-intensive.

 

[Hayst]

I've never tried it on a Jubilee, but I would imagine it's the same process.

Jubilee has 2 smaller links to widen on the bracelet, rather than one bigger one, but the end link should be the same process as an Oyster.

I think the only complication is that those two little links in the Jubilee are sometimes hard to line up for reaming, and would require a little care to stretch them evenly, but neither issue would be insurmountable, just a little more attention-intensive.

They are also very easy to separate from the endlink so take plenty of time and do NOT use anything that even remotely resembles force...a little lubrication via a cutting medium is also useful.

 

[Hayst]

Sand the spring bars you mean?

No, don't.

Open up the small round cylinders in the endlinks...gently.

 

[Karbon74]

sanding for the springbar tips, I meant.
so that they don't jut out the lugs

fitting the bracelet is another topics indeed

 

[Hayst]

sanding for the springbar tips, I meant.
so that they don't jut out the lugs

fitting the bracelet is another topics indeed

You are right about that, they look like crap when the jut out from the sides.

 

[freebalkany]

Ah well, looks like I found the solution to my problem:

Signed Solid Stainless Steel All Brushed 20mm Oyster Quality Watch Band Bracelet Strap For Mens Vintage 36mm ROLEX EXPLORER Watch Case Accept Fat 2.0mm Spring Bars

rafflesdials.com

 

[1675lover]

Ah well, looks like I found the solution to my problem:

Signed Solid Stainless Steel All Brushed 20mm Oyster Quality Watch Band Bracelet Strap For Mens Vintage 36mm ROLEX EXPLORER Watch Case Accept Fat 2.0mm Spring Bars

rafflesdials.com

Yeah rafflesdial has a couple new items and this is just one of them.

Curious, what case, bezel and crystal are u using? The dome shape looks fantastic.
And the engravings too!

 

[Karbon74]

Ah well, looks like I found the solution to my problem:

Signed Solid Stainless Steel All Brushed 20mm Oyster Quality Watch Band Bracelet Strap For Mens Vintage 36mm ROLEX EXPLORER Watch Case Accept Fat 2.0mm Spring Bars

rafflesdials.com

you need to tell him that it's for a 1016 for him to send the right endlinks

 

[freebalkany]

Yeah rafflesdial has a couple new items and this is just one of them.

Curious, what case, bezel and crystal are u using? The dome shape looks fantastic.
And the engravings too!

Bivintage 1016 case, all original

 

[Karbon74]

sharing this here as I know you will appreciate such a watch




there is just something about it. the same purity of form as the 1016. The over the top name.

 

[d1d1ka]

This frog foot dial looks very good in quality. Does anyone know where I can purchase it? The only Vietnamese seller I know is Ruby... Ruby dial is not bad, but it's not that good either.

BiVintageStore had them. I wanted to get one from them but compared to an actual service dial some bits are not quite correct.
I have uploaded a pic of an actual frog foot service dial.
You can see the differences in the "E"s.
Excellent dial though, you can contact bivintagestore. See if they still have them. Or they can make new ones.

 

[dpd3672]

sharing this here as I know you will appreciate such a watch




there is just something about it. the same purity of form as the 1016. The over the top name.

One of the reasons that, until recently, my 1002 Air King was my go to watch. Simple, understated, practical...all the information I need and nothing that I don't. Thanks to you guys, the Explorer has eclipsed that. I guess the 3,6, and 9 is something I need after all...

I love my Subs, but NOBODY uses the rotating bezel to time dives. I love my GMT, but I can just as easily add 5 to see what time it is in London or add 14 for Tokyo as I can use the 4th hand. I love my Speedmaster, but I can use the seconds hand on a Timex to see how long it takes my buddy to chug a beer, lol or for me to run a mile (full disclosure: Garmin does everything better for anything athletic related, lol).

It's not "Rolex" or "Omega" that I love, necessarily...it's the design itself. Rolex is just the pinnacle of perfecting that design (in my humble opinion). Seiko, Citizen...even the lowly Timex...didn't fall too far from the tree that inspired them, and I'd rather sport your Seiko than a Richard Mille.

 

[freebalkany]

One of the reasons that, until recently, my 1002 Air King was my go to watch. Simple, understated, practical...all the information I need and nothing that I don't. Thanks to you guys, the Explorer has eclipsed that. I guess the 3,6, and 9 is something I need after all...

I love my Subs, but NOBODY uses the rotating bezel to time dives. I love my GMT, but I can just as easily add 5 to see what time it is in London or add 14 for Tokyo as I can use the 4th hand. I love my Speedmaster, but I can use the seconds hand on a Timex to see how long it takes my buddy to chug a beer, lol or for me to run a mile (full disclosure: Garmin does everything better for anything athletic related, lol).

It's not "Rolex" or "Omega" that I love, necessarily...it's the design itself. Rolex is just the pinnacle of perfecting that design (in my humble opinion). Seiko, Citizen...even the lowly Timex...didn't fall too far from the tree that inspired them, and I'd rather sport your Seiko than a Richard Mille.

Actually, I cook a lot and I find the rotating bezel very practical for tracking cooking times.

 

[dpd3672]

Actually, I cook a lot and I find the rotating bezel very practical for tracking cooking times.

There actually might be an untapped market here. Like scuba divers (or pilots, or race car drivers) there are a lot of high income professional chefs that would probably buy a high end tool watch designed for their craft. And like those professions, there are a lot of amateurs who will buy whatever tool the pros use.

Create a prototype and give them away to high profile chefs like Gordon Ramsey, Bobby Flay, etc. Make it a prize on the Iron Chef and similar shows. Then when demand has built up, offer it for sale to the general public.

The Rolex Souffle-Master. I've gotta trademark that name, lol.