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The 1016: The Under Appreciated Thread

Joshuwa

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A late entry but we'll have it!
Welcome DPD to the Sunday Evening 1016 Thread Kitchen Shot Club!


Membership has closed for this week and will re-open next Sunday Evevning.
Be ready guys!
I better get on with the build then, need to be apart of the 1%
 
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369mafia

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On the topic of 34mm

from a few pages back, I shared this pic:

THis was posted in a watch group on FB I asked the owner if the dial had been refinished.

He claimed he did not know but he did tell us that it was a 34mm , which would confirm 100% refinished because there was never any SCOC text on a 5500 explorer .

Someone called him out and said it was a fake.
he replied by calling them a fake enthusiast.
end of my exciting fb story drama lol

HEFLzt.jpeg
plot thickens.

The owner of the 5500 scoc just took it to a watch maker and had it opened and it has a 1570 movement.
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Has an odd refinished dial with larger numerals , markers and scoc text
1570 movement in a 5500 - never happened.

When I commented on the thread that a 5500 should have a different movement , and since there are a number of details that are questionsable about his dial .

his response:

"so its one of those rare manufactorying error watches that shouldnt exist? Neat"

ME *facepalm* its unlikely.
 
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plot thickens.

The owner of the 5500 scoc just took it to a watch maker and had it opened and it has a 1570 movement.
412258336_4005825309648966_8215512319142747831_n.jpg



Has an odd refinished dial with larger numerals , markers and scoc text
1570 movement in a 5500 - never happened.

When I commented on the thread that a 5500 should have a different movement , and since there are a number of details that are questionsable about his dial .

his response:

"so its one of those rare manufactorying error watches that shouldnt exist? Neat"

ME *facepalm* its unlikely.
Interesting. With older watches, there's really no telling what's been done to them over the years. Maybe a spare 1570 bridge was used to replace a broken 1520/1530 one at a mom and pop watch repair shop.

My best guess would be someone built up a Franken back when movements weren't as expensive as complete watches. The refinished dial suggests it's been worked on outside the official channels, so anything goes, I guess. Today, a 1570 movement would be kind of wasted on a 5500, as you could build a much more valuable watch around it, if you were so inclined.
 

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plot thickens.

The owner of the 5500 scoc just took it to a watch maker and had it opened and it has a 1570 movement.
412258336_4005825309648966_8215512319142747831_n.jpg



Has an odd refinished dial with larger numerals , markers and scoc text
1570 movement in a 5500 - never happened.

When I commented on the thread that a 5500 should have a different movement , and since there are a number of details that are questionsable about his dial .

his response:

"so its one of those rare manufactorying error watches that shouldnt exist? Neat"

ME *facepalm* its unlikely.
Hum,
There was a rumour of some fake 1570's last year but that transpired to be all they were - rumours. Nobody's seen one yet. Looks gen to me.
 
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Hum,
There was a rumour of some fake 1570's last year but that transpired to be all they were - rumours. Nobody's seen one yet. Looks gen to me.
Damn, if there's ONE thing I'd like to see in rep, it would be a good 1570. I don't even care if it's a cosmetically altered ETA (or 2813, for that matter). Just something that looks the part, on cursory inspection, with the correct diameter and stem height. A drpp in fit to a gen case, or a big motivator for factories to produce more accurate, gen-spec cases.

Not that I'd be upset if they did a faithful 1:1 copy, but I'd be happy with far less.
 

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Possible that its franken 1500 (date) or a 1002 (no date), no serial on the 1570 mainplate? is there 5500 engrave on the case?
 

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Possible that its franken 1500 (date) or a 1002 (no date), no serial on the 1570 mainplate? is there 5500 engrave on the case?
I had that thought also...the 5500 Explorers are somewhat rare and valuable, so a lot of cheaper 5500 and 55XX were "converted" to Explorers with refinished or rep dials. One step removed from that, a lot of 10XX 15XX, etc Oyster cases were converted.

I'm guessing that it's been in that configuration for quite a while, however, since it's been more than a few years since a 1570 movement was available at an attractive price for a project like that.
 
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