[[Suggestions, Corrections, Updates & Discussion]] ALE’s PAM GUIDE ****************

[ALE7575]

Ale, how much time do you invest in your exceptional PAM guide on a daily basis?

Thanks for your kind words

The first PAM GUIDE took about six months of work and more 500-600 hrs.
After that I have to read all PAM Sections of RWI and other forums to get the info for all new reps and updates
I also need to read all dealer catalogues to get the info and new releases and links.
Then I have to start my own reviews and evaluations
More or less about 30-35 hours per week, a little more on vacation
Really hard to update the info with the releases of the last months

ALE

 

[Gazz]

Still no pics! Aaaaaarrrrghh!

 

[merc1]

Ale, I thought that it cost a lot of time, but I wasn't aware about this dimension. An incredible job!

 

[ALE7575]

Still no pics! Aaaaaarrrrghh!

Be sure Joran is working on that

ALE

 

[ALE7575]

Ale, I thought that it cost a lot of time, but I wasn't aware about this dimension. An incredible job!

Yes this is really hard

Just try to make a data sheet of only one watch and note the time you take

ALE

 

[Destroyertan]

Hey Ale, I'm new to this and your PAM Guide has been of great help.

Thanks for the effort.

Placed an order for the 441 Seagull V2, any comments and advice on the watch?

 

[ALE7575]

Hey Ale, I'm new to this and your PAM Guide has been of great help.

Thanks for the effort.

Placed an order for the 441 Seagull V2, any comments and advice on the watch?

Thanks for your comments and glad to be helpful
This is a very good choice !
Just commenting that if you buy a PAM 438 with similar movement and an Asso strap you can get two watches (438 and 441 with black movement)
Up to you

ALE

 

[Destroyertan]

[MENTION=35350]ALE7575[/MENTION] , I am further assured by your comments.

Will post pics of the watch when it arrives.

I am currently looking the the PAM 111 by Dochere.

 

[JMMC]

Pics available again :thumbup:

 

[G.H.Mumm]

I read Ale's topics and it's truly amazing all that work, thank you for this !

Could anyone help me ? I am looking for some information about the new case from the H-factory, I looked at Ale's topic but it's only on the old case. I know that the H-factory has updated the case but I don't really know what are the improvements. Is it a fairly easy way to recognize an old case from a new one ?

Thanks.

 

[ALE7575]

I read Ale's topics and it's truly amazing all that work, thank you for this !

Could anyone help me ? I am looking for some information about the new case from the H-factory, I looked at Ale's topic but it's only on the old case. I know that the H-factory has updated the case but I don't really know what are the improvements. Is it a fairly easy way to recognize an old case from a new one ?

Thanks.

Unfortunately we have not yet info enough about the new cases from H maker and from KW-V6Fac

Moreover, H maker is making the new cases with mixing old and new parts and with a little inconsistent quality and we cannot get a definitive evaluation. The worse flaw is a base of the bezel a bit wider than gen and a sharper transition edge on bezel

Regarding KW maybe the quality is more consistent but there are no many sold watches and few info about them.

Both new cases are promising and in the near future they will be better than Noob V3 cases

But the new case of Noob PAM 390 (V4) is also a sure value and maybe the most accurate

I hope Noob will apply the new V4 case in all models. But maybe Noob has still some cases V3 and it will use this old stock in many Luminor 44mm. mainly seeing that many people are willing to buy Noobs with V3 case.

We are waiting for more info and pics from new owners of luminor 44mm from H maker and KW-V6Fac

ALE

 

[ALE7575]

Update – 4 June 2015

New models included in PAM GUIDE:

Model - PAM 508 - LUMINOR 1950 CERAMIC SUBMERSIBLE 3 Days
All the versions of PAM 508 from April 2014

I have take the opportunity to review almost all rep P.9000 decorated Inverted and NON-inverted


- PAM 508 P- ZFac SS+DLC coated w/ decorated A7750 Inverted ZP9000
The first good rep of PAM 508, but really expensive and nowadays clearly surpassed by real Ceramic versions. This rep doesn’t make sense at this moment

- PAM 508 P- KW-V6Fac Ceramic w/ decorated A7750 Inverted KP9000
A true Super rep with fantastic ceramic case

- PAM 508 P KW-V6Fac Ceramic w/ decorated A7750 NON-inverted KP9000-V2
The previous Super rep improved with a more accurate movement NON-inverted

- PAM 508 P- KW-V6Fac SS+DLC coated w/ decorated Seagull NON-inverted KP9000-Seagull V2
A good rep with interesting price but completely surpassed by the real Ceramic version. Leaving aside the price this rep doesn’t make sense

- PAM 508 P- KW-V6Fac Ceramic w/ decorated Seagull NON-inverted KP9000-Seagull V2
The most interesting Super rep version with the already known KW-V6Fac Ceramic case and a reliable and accurate decorated Seagull NON-inverted movement. Besides the price is very attractive.

Enjoy the new reps

ALE

 

[mac83]

Great work ale, I was wondering, what pam reps do you wear the most and which is your favourite

 

[apwilliams30497]

Ale,

What can I say but WOW.

I only joined this site yesterday, needless to say I basically have not slept yet because of your write up on the Pam models.

I was just going to pull the trigger and buy a watch, but now, I can make an informed decision and know that I am going to get the best model for the right price.

Thanks very much for your hard work.

But I should say that after reading that amazing post, well, now I can't decide on one so will have to buy a few !!!

Thanks

Tony

Sydney - Australia

 

[ALE7575]

Update – 15 June 2015

New models included in PAM GUIDE:

All versions of PAM 569

Model- PAM 569 Q-series LUMINOR SUBMERSIBLE 1950 LEFT-HANDED 3 DAYS AUTOMATIC TITANIO

-PAM 569 ZFac Q-series w/ decorated A7750 NON-inverted improved ZP9000-V2.5
Nice rep well made with accurate movement (not very important since has solid caseback). Unfortunately some flaws don’t advise this rep over the KW-V6Fac versions.

-PAM 569 KW-V6Fac Q-series w/ decorated A7750 Inverted
This rep is overall batter than ZFac version and his appearance is impressive and very gen-like. Movement is inverted but the caseback is solid. The only serious flaw is the finish of bezel knurling, which remains under the rest of features. Super rep bordering lower status.

-PAM 569 KW-V6Fac Q-series w/ decorated Seagull NON-inverted KWP9000-Seagull V2
The same magnificent rep watch above commented but fitted with a reliable, cheaper, and more accurate movement. Super rep bordering lower status and the best option in March 2015

Enjoy the new reps

ALE

 

[winz]

wow, this is amazing, thanks for your hardwork, ALE

 

[Abba Zabba Zoo]

Thanks ALE! One of them will be coming my way soon...

 

[ALE7575]

Thanks friends for your kind words

ALE

 

[umirza85]

Is there a guide somewhere available on the PAM 338? its not in the guide. Just wondering what versions of the watch there are.

 

[mysterio]

Is there a guide somewhere available on the PAM 338? its not in the guide. Just wondering what versions of the watch there are.

There is only one version and it is made by V6F.