[[Suggestions, Corrections, Updates & Discussion]] ALE’s PAM GUIDE ****************

[Soxxgo2]

This is insane. I can't imagine how much time it took. Thanks a ton.

 

[ALE7575]

This is insane. I can't imagine how much time it took. Thanks a ton.

You can easily imagine it. Just for your info:

500-600 hrs the first version and about 20-30 hrs of updating every week

Thanks for your kind words

Enjoy it
ALE

 

[Soxxgo2]

You can easily imagine it. Just for your info:

500-600 hrs the first version and about 20-30 hrs of updating every week

Thanks for your kind words

Enjoy it
ALE

Holy commitment! That's awesome. I think my mouse finger is sore from scrolling [emoji2]

 

[corsa]

As always Ale, top work! Thank you very much!

 

[ALE7575]

Update – 11 July 2015

New models included in PAM GUIDE:

Last versions of PAM 382 Bronzo from May–June 2015

PAM 382 KW-V6Fac with P.9000 decorated Seagull NON-inverted KP9000-Seagull V2
The same as previous version but with more accurate and reliable movement. The best version available at this moment

PAM 382 ZFac V4 improved and with P.9000 decorated A7750 Improved and NON-inverted ZP9000-V2.5
ZFac improves the bezel and CG, and uses a new improved Movement P.9000 decorated A7750 NON-Inverted with some improvements in accuracy. With this version, ZFac almost reaches the quality of last KW-V6Fac, but still remain inferior IMO.


Also included in PAM GUIDE the Official Chemical Analysis of KW-V6Fac bronze material of KW-V6Fac PAM 382. Assuring in this way the quality of KW-V6Fac material
KW PAM382 Bronze material – Official Chemical Analysis (the definitive answer) ******
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/...mical-Analysis-(the-definitive-answer)-******
http://www.rwg.bz/board/index.php?showtopic=91901
http://www.repgeek.com/showthread.php?t=243565&highlight=chemical+analysis

Enjoy the new reps

ALE

 

[EkaSN]

Thank you SO MUCHHH ALE!!
You gave me a very clearrrr information in here..
Absolute option for PAM 312 is KW with KP9000 v2..
Thank you again ALE!

 

[ALE7575]

Update – 03 August 2015

New models included in PAM GUIDE:

New reps of PAM 499 – Very nice option for PAM with WHITE dials lovers. With Luminor 1950 caseset with polished bezel and midcase.
If you like big watches this 1950 44mm case wears more than a Bettarini Luminor 44mm.

Model- PAM499 Q-series ZFac w/decorated A7750 NON –inverted improved ZP9000-V2.5
This ZFac rep is available from Sept 2014 but with the “old” decorated A7750 NON-inverted ZP3000-V2. Now improved with the ZP9000-V2.5
Since this change of movement was not announced by delaers or makers, you could get this nice rep with improved V2.5 or non improved V2 depending of the luck and the date of production (after March 2015).
You should carefully inspect your QC pics to assure improved V2.5, much more accurate. See the complete details in PAM GUIDE.

Model- PAM499 Q-series KW-V6Fac w/decorated A7750 inverted P9000
Magnificent rep with the well know and awesome case of KW PAM 359 but fitted with a decorated A7750 Inverted (already surpassed for NON-inverted decorations)

Model- PAM499 Q-series KW-V6Fac w/decorated Seagull NON-inverted A7750 inverted KP9000-seagull V2
The same as previous KW rep but now fitted with a decorated Seagull NON-inverted. This is the best option from May 2015.

Read PAM GUIDE for more details of these nice and interesting watches

Enjoy the new reps

ALE

 

[ALE7575]

Update – 07 August 2015

New models included in PAM GUIDE:

P-series reps from Noob of PAM 176 and 177

-PAM 176 P-series LUMINOR BASE TITANIUM from Noob
The new version from Noob P-series with interesting improvements, although non announced.
A true Super rep
But read the PAM GUIDE because not everything is nice at the transition times

-PAM 177 P-series LUMINOR MARINA TITANIUM from Noob
This rep previously released can be benefited by the new improvements from PAM 176 P-series.
As above commented, read the PAM GUIDE because not everything is nice at the transition times

-Read also some interesting WARNING REMARKS about the new 2015 casesets from Noob- KW and H maker. Be careful with QC pics

Enjoy the new reps

ALE

 

[domiffm]

Thank you ALE! This is really great work and it was very helpful for my choices!

 

[ALE7575]

Update – 10 August 2015

New models included in PAM GUIDE:

- PAM 532 RADIOMIR 1940 3 Days "Paneristi Forever"
SF maker P-series with P.3000 Clone4
Good and nice rep but unfortunately features a glued PIG logo on dial that ruins the watch and the evaluation.


- PAM 508 LUMINOR 1950 SUBMERSIBLE 3Days Autom. Ceramic
ZFac P-series Real Ceramic with decorated A7750 NON-inverted improved ZP9000-V2.5
An interesting new version from ZFac made of ceramic and fitted with the last decorated A7750 NON-inverted improved ZP9000-V2.5
The case, bazel and CG are at the same level of KW and gets the same evaluation


New versions of:
PAM 438 LUMINOR 1950 GMT 3 Days Aut. Ceramic "Tuttonero"

- PAM 438 KW-V6Fac O-series Ceramic with decorated Seagull NON-inverted ZP900-Seagull V2
The same as last KW Ceramic but featuring the decorated Seagull NON-inverted movement. The best option available from April 2015 together with ZFac w/ ZP9001/B-V2.5. (released in July 2015)

- PAM 438 ZFac O-series Ceramic with decorated A7750 NON-inverted improved ZP9000-V2.5
The ZFac ceramic version of the “Tuttoneroâ€. The best option available from July 2015 together with KW-V6Fac w/ ZP9001/B-Seagull V2. (released in April 2015)

Enjoy the new reps

ALE

 

[ALE7575]

Try this link

http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/...p-Discussion-ALE’s-PAM-GUIDE-****************


Anyway if you have technical problems you should contact Joran, his username is DR3M3L
He is the Technical Administrator

ALE

 

[ALE7575]

Update – 12 August 2015

New models included in PAM GUIDE:

1- PAM 388 RADIOMIR BLACK SEAL 3 Days Automatic
Last versions of PAM 388 from KW-V6Fac and ZFac

- PAM 388 O-series KW-V6Fac O-series w/decorated Seagull NON-inverted KP9000-Seagull V2) with KW V2 caseset.
New version of a very well known rep, with a movement more accurate and reliable. Very good price and the best option from January 2015.

- PAM 388 O-series ZFac O-series w/decorated A7750 NON-inverted Improved ZP9000-V2.5
New version of the ZFac PAM 388 with new and more accurate movement. Good option for A7750 lovers.


2- PAM 386 LUMINOR MARINA 1950 3 Days Automatic COMPOSITE
Last versions of PAM 388 from KW-V6Fac and ZFac

- PAM 386 M-series KW-V6Fac Ti+DLC w/decorated Seagull NON-inverted KP9000-Seagull V2
New version of a very well known rep, with a movement more accurate and reliable. Very good price and the best option from June 2015 together with below indicated rep from ZFac

- PAM 386 O-series ZFac Ti+DLC w/decorated A7750 NON-inverted Improved ZP9000-V2.5
New version of the ZFac PAM 386 with new and more accurate movement. The best option from June 2015 together with previously commented rep from KW. Good option for A7750 lovers.



3- CHANGES IN PAM GUIDE
Since there are a lot of versions, mainly for all the reps automatic fitted with P.9000 decorated movements I have started and tried a new organization for the data-sheet, only for above reps PAM 388 and PAM 386, in order to make more clear and easy the consults.

I have changed the presentation of the EVALUATIONS, ordering the reps by release date and making a summarized but detailed description of each version.

I have also introduced this description in the inner text, before the comments and reviews about each version.

I have ordered REP LINKS by versions instead of dealers and I have organized the versions by release date

I hope that will be easier and clearer

If this modification works fine and better, I will apply this organization for all new reps included and other important ones.
Any comments would be appreciated


Enjoy the new reps

ALE

 

[lmmo]

Great improvements [MENTION=35350]ALE7575[/MENTION]. Thank you for all the effort on putting such an useful guide.

 

[ALE7575]

Great improvements @ALE7575. Thank you for all the effort on putting such an useful guide.

Thanks Immo for the comments
Appreciate
ALE

 

[ALE7575]

Update 15 August 2015

New model included in PAM GUIDE:

PAM 505 RADIOMIR BLACK SEAL 3 Days Automatic Composite
Last version of this rep from KW-V6Fac

- PAM 505 O-series KW-V6Fac V3 SS+DLC coating w/decorated Seagull NON-inverted KP9000-Seagull V2
The last version of this nice rep fitted with a reliable, more accurate and cheaper movement. IMO the most interesting version of rep PAM 505 from January 2015

I have also applied the changes of organization commented in previous post #132 for all reps of PAM 505
Any comments would be appreciated


Enjoy the new reps

ALE

 

[ALE7575]

Update 19 August 2015

New models included in PAM GUIDE:

-Some well known reps from KW-V6Fac now fitted with the P.9000 decorated Seagull ST2555 NON-inverted layout KP9000-Seagull V2
This is a reliable movement with balance wheel @6, therefore closer to Gen @7, and a decoration of P.9000 with NON-inverted layout, becoming this rep movement the most accurate together with the ZFac decorated A7750 NON-inverted and Improved ZP9000-V2.5
Besides, this Seagull based movement is cheaper than its competitors. In this way it becomes the most interesting option in 2015

-PAM 312 O-series KW-V6Fac w/decorated Seagull NON-inverted KP9000-Seagull V2
The most interesting current version

-PAM 351 P-series KW-V6Fac w/decorated Seagull NON-inverted KP9000-Seagull V2
The most interesting current version

-PAM 359 N-series KW-V6Fac w/decorated Seagull NON-inverted KP9000-Seagull V2
The most interesting current version

-PAM 389 O-series KW-V6Fac w/decorated Seagull NON-inverted KP9000-Seagull V2
The most interesting current version, leaving aside the inaccurate cushion shape of the mid-case, but much better finished than ZFac version.

I have also applied, for all avobe commented reps, the changes of organization commented in previous post #132
Any comments would be appreciated


Enjoy the new reps

ALE

 

[asbk69]

Hi Ale, I've just recently come across your guide, and I could not believe it! Unbelievable amount of work, expertise, and generosity to others. Thank you SO MUCH!

 

[ALE7575]

Hi Ale, I've just recently come across your guide, and I could not believe it! Unbelievable amount of work, expertise, and generosity to others. Thank you SO MUCH!

Encouraging words
You are welcome
ALE

 

[ALE7575]

Update 25 August 2015

New models included in PAM GUIDE:


-Last versions 2015 of replicas PAM 372
-PAM 372 KW-V6Fac N-series (wrongly announced as P-series) w/ P.3000 decorated A6497-2
A disappointing release with nice case and finish but really inaccurate dial lume colours and thinner LUMINOR PANEARAI engravings on dial. No comments about the movement, it actually is the first version of decorated A6497-2 similar to P.3000 from Puretime, even with the bue screws !!

-PAM 372 KW-V6Fac N-series “improved” w/ P.3000 decorated A6497-2
The same watch as above commented with no visible improvements aside a bit more accurate thickness of LUMINOR PANERAI engravings on dial. Other disappointement.

-PAM 372 ZFac O-series w/ P.3000 Clone4
New version of PAM 372 released by ZFac. IMO this version doesn’t introduce any improvements in relation to the previous Noob or SF versions, indeed CG is worse. The only improvement is the more accurate Clone4 movement. Good option for people liking movement appearance.


- New PAM 499 by ZFac
- PAM 449 ZFac O-series w/ P.3000 Clone4 movement
New rep at the same level as previous SF versions, with a bit better dial and a bit worse case but with more accurate movement Clone4


- New PAM 328 by ZFac with NON-inverted and Improved movement
-PAM 328 ZFac P-series w/ decorated A7750 NON-inverted Improved ZP9000-V2.5
This rep is exactly the same as previous ZFac fitted with decorated A7750 inverted, but now comes with the last movement from ZFac NON-inverted and Improved. No reason to change the evalution, just a more accurate movement.


- New PAM 393 ZFac with NON-inverted and Improved movement (44mm)
-PAM 393 ZFac P-series w/ decorated A7750 NON-inverted Improved ZP9000-V2.5 (44mm)
This rep is exactly the same as previous ZFac fitted with decorated A7750 NON-inverted, but now comes with the last movement from ZFac NON-inverted and Improved.
Unfortunately this “rep” continues coming with 44mm case instead of 42mm, therefore it is a “fantasy” and really inaccurate, but nicely made. No reason to change the evaluation. Low grade rep

I have also applied, for all above commented reps, the changes of organization commented in previous post #132
Any comments would be appreciated

Sorry, no very good news in this update

Enjoy the new reps

ALE

 

[lmmo]

-Last versions 2015 of replicas PAM 372
-PAM 372 KW-V6Fac N-series (wrongly announced as P-series) w/ P.3000 decorated A6497-2
A disappointing release with nice case and finish but really inaccurate dial lume colours and thinner LUMINOR PANEARAI engravings on dial. No comments about the movement, it actually is the first version of decorated A6497-2 similar to P.3000 from Puretime, even with the bue screws !!

-PAM 372 KW-V6Fac N-series “improved” w/ P.3000 decorated A6497-2
The same watch as above commented with no visible improvements aside a bit more accurate thickness of LUMINOR PANERAI engravings on dial. Other disappointement.

-PAM 372 ZFac O-series w/ P.3000 Clone4
New version of PAM 372 released by ZFac. IMO this version doesn’t introduce any improvements in relation to the previous Noob or SF versions, indeed CG is worse. The only improvement is the more accurate Clone4 movement. Good option for people liking movement appearance.

ALE

Mind if I ask you here [MENTION=35350]ALE7575[/MENTION], but if the latest releases of the PAM372 are like this, does it means that the cheap (InTime has it for $158) Noob version is the way to go if you don't care about movement accuracy? Thanks!