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{*PCTeam*} - Review of the KW PAM 438 "Tuttonero"

hifiskipper

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Hawker789

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Mine is in the post....after seeing these pics, I seriously can't wait!!


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Blueinc

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Any word on V6F fixing the short hands issue? This is a have to own watch, especially if it makes Ale's super rep status.
 

rockstardc

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Guys, I have a quick question. I recently got these pics from a TD but I asked for a change due to the gap between bracelet and lug, especially at the bottom portion of the watch and the top part of the ceramic looked inconsistent. I also felt the date wasn't centered, it sat a little low so I would love to hear opinions. Attached are the pics.







Also, when the TD tried to change the watch, it seems the factory refused to change it. Is this normal or was it because I was too anal about it. This is the first time this has happened, and the first time I'm buying a ZF watch so I'm curious.

Thanks and much appreciated.
 

nalomb

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The issue around the lugs is really not an issue -- you have an angled piece coming off the watch case that is next to the link that is lying flat -- when you wear it, it is not visible. It looks like something serious on the QC, but is an absolute non-issue out in the wild.

On the date, none of the dates on these are centered 100% perfectly. If you don't care for how your piece handles itself, you can always tweak it with the crown, but this is as good as you can reasonably expect. The factory probably does not have much backstock of this item, so that could be a reason. If you were my customer and did not buy this one, I would kindly put you on my "do not respond to" list -- so your latter instinct that they may be snuffy with you because you were too anal may be correct.
 

Sirlordcomic

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Will it make super rep status with the terrible AR?


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rockstardc

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The issue around the lugs is really not an issue -- you have an angled piece coming off the watch case that is next to the link that is lying flat -- when you wear it, it is not visible. It looks like something serious on the QC, but is an absolute non-issue out in the wild.

On the date, none of the dates on these are centered 100% perfectly. If you don't care for how your piece handles itself, you can always tweak it with the crown, but this is as good as you can reasonably expect. The factory probably does not have much backstock of this item, so that could be a reason. If you were my customer and did not buy this one, I would kindly put you on my "do not respond to" list -- so your latter instinct that they may be snuffy with you because you were too anal may be correct.
Thanks for the reply. I've promptly requested for the watch, can't wait to own it. TBH, I've rejected watches before on the basis of poorly centered date wheel before with my Rolies hence I didn't think what I was asking for was excessive.

Maybe it's a factory thing. But nonetheless, I've learned something new today. Much appreciated nalomb!
 

Hawker789

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Just received today; I am astounded by the quality of it! The feel is great, dial is excellent and the case is second to none!


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alex86

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Guys, I have a quick question. I recently got these pics from a TD but I asked for a change due to the gap between bracelet and lug, especially at the bottom portion of the watch and the top part of the ceramic looked inconsistent. I also felt the date wasn't centered, it sat a little low so I would love to hear opinions. Attached are the pics.







Also, when the TD tried to change the watch, it seems the factory refused to change it. Is this normal or was it because I was too anal about it. This is the first time this has happened, and the first time I'm buying a ZF watch so I'm curious.

Thanks and much appreciated.

It looks like you have a better version of minute hand. It looks longer than others, more like gen I think :thumbsup:
 

PolonusTM

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It looks like you have a better version of minute hand. It looks longer than others, more like gen I think :thumbsup:

It looks better since it is not (!) ceramic version. Different CG pin, different internal shape of CG, different lever tip shape, different crown, suspicious sheen of DLC'ed steel instead of ceramic matte....
 

alex86

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Ou ok, I thought it is also the ceramic version, sorry. I see it now, thats ZF and not KW :picard:
 

airfix163

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fantastic review. many thanks
 

ALE7575

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It looks better since it is not (!) ceramic version. Different CG pin, different internal shape of CG, different lever tip shape, different crown, suspicious sheen of DLC'ed steel instead of ceramic matte....

Of course I agree completely with Polonus: it is not ceramic

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ct83

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Lets Check the QC pics from the V6 441 with Asso. Just got it from Toro.
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hifiskipper

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Does anyone know where to get black screws for the 438? That would be a nice upgrade. The more I wear this watch the more I love it. The recessed cp is still bugging me a little but I think I'm past the GMT no function.
 

alex86

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Hey guys, I just got QC pics from my TD. Now I`m a little bit confused. It should be the KW V6 real ceramic version, but the minute hand looks longer on my pics. Did they fix the issue or is it not the KW V6 Version on my pics? Can somebody confirm the KW V6 real ceramic version?

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mysterio

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The case has the characteristic matte look of ceramic. The movement is from the ceramic PAM438.