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Patek 5740 clone movement

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Let’s be honest. This is not even more complicated than the Daytona movement. It should cost similar when mass produced by multiple factories.

I just hope it makes it to mass adoption rather than an ACE $7k movement.
 

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FYI

At one of my PayPal friendly WeChat dealers the pice is RMB 48,000.
 
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I just feel extremely betrayed and disappointed. There’s gen perpetual watches under $8k. ACE is being totally greedy cloning this and charging $7k for a movement. Daytona movement is just as complicated and costs less.

I hope all the other factories take out their own version of this movement. ACE is just greedy at this point.
 

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I just feel extremely betrayed and disappointed. There’s gen perpetual watches under $8k. ACE is being totally greedy cloning this and charging $7k for a movement. Daytona movement is just as complicated and costs less.

I hope all the other factories take out their own version of this movement. ACE is just greedy at this point.
I do also hope that other factories will rep the ACA rep. 🤣
 
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I just feel extremely betrayed and disappointed. There’s gen perpetual watches under $8k. ACE is being totally greedy cloning this and charging $7k for a movement. Daytona movement is just as complicated and costs less.

I hope all the other factories take out their own version of this movement. ACE is just greedy at this point.

they know people will pay

5712 ace is still 3k and selling
 

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I just feel extremely betrayed and disappointed. There’s gen perpetual watches under $8k. ACE is being totally greedy cloning this and charging $7k for a movement. Daytona movement is just as complicated and costs less.

I hope all the other factories take out their own version of this movement. ACE is just greedy at this point.
Just do the math on a replication of such complicated mechanism at low volume...

Frederic Constante is not comparable to an illegal factory spending time and money on R&D trying to understand the initial thoughts of PP engineers, making everything work (assuming this clone works haha)

Back then when clone movements were a novelty, we talked about 1-1.5 Mio. $ for the development of a clone like the 4130 with fixed contracts of 5.000 Movements MOQ etc.

Then set this into perspective - something which was believed to be unfathomable - a PP Perpetual Calendar clone...

I'm optimistic that at higher volumes this pricing will be adjusted just like the new RM055 clone which was around 3K initially and is now found in a 700$ rep. Let's see.
 

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Just do the math on a replication of such complicated mechanism at low volume...

Frederic Constante is not comparable to an illegal factory spending time and money on R&D trying to understand the initial thoughts of PP engineers, making everything work (assuming this clone works haha)

Back then when clone movements were a novelty, we talked about 1-1.5 Mio. $ for the development of a clone like the 4130 with fixed contracts of 5.000 Movements MOQ etc.

Then set this into perspective - something which was believed to be unfathomable - a PP Perpetual Calendar clone...

I'm optimistic that at higher volumes this pricing will be adjusted just like the new RM055 clone which was around 3K initially and is now found in a 700$ rep. Let's see.

How long did it take for the price to come down for the RM clone ?
 

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The actual RM Vaucher clone is still over 20K USD.
Yes but the movement of the current V3 by BBR was also sold separately for around 3-5K before it got widely available.
 

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Looks like there could be the possibilty of some 3940 frankenstein watches appearing in the future soon.
3940 cases/dials could be equipped with this new movement alternative.
Exactly that is my dream.

I am currently looking into building a superfranken 5227.
 
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Yes but the movement of the current V3 by BBR was also sold separately for around 3-5K before it got widely available.
Do you remember how long it took for the prices to come down ? I just want to manage my expectations of how long of a wait it will be.
 

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Do you remember how long it took for the prices to come down ? I just want to manage my expectations of how long of a wait it will be.

See my post above. 18 months, end of 2026, then double that period for good measure. Enjoy collecting and wearing the excellent reps that are currently available in the meantime ;)
 

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See my post above. 18 months, end of 2026, then double that period for good measure. Enjoy collecting and wearing the excellent reps that are currently available in the meantime ;)
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