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PAM 382 Bronzo - QC Pics allowed Thread
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The V6F is a KW if I'm not mistaken and as far as I know they are the only 2 that make a Bronzo of this caliber .
There are cheap-er ones available in rose gold at places like aliexpress + DHGatebut the price should tell you about their quality .( $150.USD) I did buy one of those and the seller fraudulently used pictures of a bronzo with patina only to ship a rose gold version of lesser quality. The watch looked decently made (if you like rose gold) but the movement is an unknown.A decent rep to the uninitiated but nowhere near the quality of the ZF or KW.
What do you mean with V6F is a KW?
If it is a KW made, why it is not branded KW ?
Also, @voxx, you mentioned that Pj788's 382 is equipped with Seagull Movement. I also thought of this before when I bought the same watch (due to the position of balance wheel @6), however I checked puretime's website http://puretime01.com/pam382-n-bron...lite-on-brown-distressed-calfskin-strap-p9000
I think I am quite sure I found the exact same watch as the one Sora sell, and it says movement is A23J ??
Now, if this watch is indeed equipped with A23J, I think we can all agree that the branding of "LITE" version should make sense. If it is equipped with seagull, I do not see a reason why it should be called LITE version ??
Are there any way to distinguish whether a movement is a seagull or A23J without opening the back case? Maybe we should call in @ALE7575 for this matter?
Btw, I'll share pic of my recent acquire of 382 V6F (with strap), also another 382 KW (first batch)
[MENTION=119128]Pj788[/MENTION] , I just washed my 382 (same version as yours), and apparently there's a slight color variation between the bezel and the rest of the body. Bezel is more pinkish, and body is more yellowish.
Have you washed yours and see if yours is the same?
How about the lever? Mine is quite loose when opening or closing...
To clean the bronze to 1 uniform color and remove the pinkish tone (copper deposit on the surface)
- 3 parts hydrogen peroxide 3%
- 1 part vinegar
Put the watch in this mixture for about 10 minutes. You will see the copper build up on the surface.
Take it out and put it in a bowl of just vinegar for a couple of minutes and you'll see it clean up as new again
- 3 parts hydrogen peroxide 3%
- 1 part vinegar
Put the watch in this mixture for about 10 minutes. You will see the copper build up on the surface.
Take it out and put it in a bowl of just vinegar for a couple of minutes and you'll see it clean up as new again
The lever seems fine to me, but this is my first Pam so I don't have anything to compare it to. ..As far as washing, I have not and really didn't plan too because I wanted to start developing patina. I guess if it starts to look like its 2 different colors I try the peroxide vinegar routine that was stated here
Hi, friends!
I also have doubts about which version is my Bronzo.
Specially because I've bought it from a local seller here in Brazil.
From what I've read here, it's a KW with Seagull.
It came with a nice crown and chamfered CG.
The lever is tight and makes the so called "slap" when I'm closing it.
The 15, 30 and 45 minute markers on the bezel are glossy.
And the bezel is more pinkish than the case.
Well, let's see the pictures.
Overall, I'm very satisfied with my new baby.
Best regards.
I also have doubts about which version is my Bronzo.
Specially because I've bought it from a local seller here in Brazil.
From what I've read here, it's a KW with Seagull.
It came with a nice crown and chamfered CG.
The lever is tight and makes the so called "slap" when I'm closing it.
The 15, 30 and 45 minute markers on the bezel are glossy.
And the bezel is more pinkish than the case.
Well, let's see the pictures.
Overall, I'm very satisfied with my new baby.
Best regards.
[MENTION=23748]Bizi[/MENTION] From your description I tend to think yours is the 'lite' version from V6F. There's difference in color between bezel and case. However, I still have doubts whether this version is using seagull or the cheaper A23J movement.
Those are my thoughts, but I'm convinced the movement is a Seagull.
I'm willing to clean it up with lemon soda in order to make even bezel and case colour.
Bezel markers shall remain glossy, though.
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The Seagull ST2555 is a 23J movement. Thats why some dealers just call it 23J in the description.
Oops! I guess I need to read much more.
Thanks. [emoji6] [emoji4]
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Anybody knows, is it possible in any way for me to swap CG & Crown from 382 KW (7750) to 382 V6F (ST2555) ?
The reason is because I don't like the appearance of V6F crown's a bit sticking out from the body and due to the crown being a bit thinner than KW's.
The reason is because I don't like the appearance of V6F crown's a bit sticking out from the body and due to the crown being a bit thinner than KW's.
As said before, it's the same watch. KW and v6f are different names for the same factory
Only difference is the movement
Only difference is the movement
I was thinking the same thing although I'm still quite new to this when it comes to movements.
About the pinkish color and differences in color from one part to another...I washed mine with lemon juice and found it came out pinkish.
After a few experimental aging attempts I cleaned it up with a cream Brasso type cleaner and it came out a nice burnt gold which I let age naturally/
Any input about that glossy markers issue?
Does it annoy you guys? Or is just me?
Is it worth fixing it? How?
Does it annoy you guys? Or is just me?
Is it worth fixing it? How?
Should be straight forward. You have to unscrew the stem from the crown - the thread should be the same in Both crowns?
And then install the stem in the fat crown - I know there is a thread about it - will look for it later - it is about setting the stem in the correct depth in the crown.
Chr
Hummmm.... Are you sure about that?
Sorry, but I've never saw that, at least on Instagram , my main tool for the Bronzo pictures.
I'll look for it and let you know if I succeed.
Thank you for your help.
Cheers!
