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PAM 382 Bronzo - QC Pics allowed Thread

pure b

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I ended up getting a refund fron my TD and bought a nive v3 from m2m.

KW is really producing shit atm
 
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I rejected this due to the crooked market at 30. Can u guys see any other major tales? The #1 on the 15 marker looks half missing too.








Looks like the crowns and CGs have been fixed. maybe it's safe to buy again.
 

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Might be just al older piece, I've got QC pics with bad crown and CG last week
 
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Might be just al older piece, I've got QC pics with bad crown and CG last week

We're probably in a transition period or maybe some of the old good stuff is starting to re-emerge
 

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Here's a few pics of the patina I did and a close-up of the CG and crown. It does look to be sicking out a bit more than the older batch but not as much as some I've seen here.

The strap was re-worked into looking fairly decent by first sanding down the rough edges with a 120 sandpaper then wiping down with lacquer thinner and then re-waxing.
The crackled finish appears to be some sort of plastic covering rather than the leather itself and once removed made all the difference. An easy fix if your so inclined while waiting for something nicer

So is my crown a fat one ?

The lever does compress the o-ring when closing but I can still wind the watch when the lever is closed ... is that normal ?

Apologies for taking this thread somewhat off topic with my questions but maybe it can help other newbies in this hobby.
PAM%2520382%2520patina.jpg

PAM%2520382%2520crown.jpg
 

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I'm still in a quandary concerning the water-tight thing. I phoned a few jewelers asking for prices etc about greasing the seals and got answers all over the place. One place wanted to test it first to see what it would take at a cost of $30, he then said if I needed to replace seals they were around $15/pop. Another place I phoned wanted $5 a seal to grease them but offered no guarantee as to it being water-tight after and said they only way was to send it out to have the air inside removed ???
From some people here they seem to take there Bronzo's into the water straight out of the box, other people tell me to grease the seals first. I even read on RWQ about someone putting over-sized seals in for better water-proofing so I'm still undecided as what is the best course of action. I don't want to spend money needlessly but I'd hate to scrap this watch on it's first outing .

Can someone please prod me into deciding what to do !
 

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I'm still in a quandary concerning the water-tight thing. I phoned a few jewelers asking for prices etc about greasing the seals and got answers all over the place. One place wanted to test it first to see what it would take at a cost of $30, he then said if I needed to replace seals they were around $15/pop. Another place I phoned wanted $5 a seal to grease them but offered no guarantee as to it being water-tight after and said they only way was to send it out to have the air inside removed ???
From some people here they seem to take there Bronzo's into the water straight out of the box, other people tell me to grease the seals first. I even read on RWQ about someone putting over-sized seals in for better water-proofing so I'm still undecided as what is the best course of action. I don't want to spend money needlessly but I'd hate to scrap this watch on it's first outing .

Can someone please prod me into deciding what to do !


Do Not Risk it...with the skinny crown and lack of resistance when shutting the crown guard lever at close it will surely let water in.
 

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There is some resistance but how much should there be ..someone with experience would be able to tell but to me it's not obvious.

I think I will just have it tested and see what happens ...$30 more isn't going to kill me and may save my watch from disaster.

BTW mine doesn't have the skinny crown.
 

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[MENTION=121062]voxx[/MENTION]

Just had my v3 in the mail. Greased the caseback O-ring and put some silicon grease between in crown and hexnut a Grimlocktime described some pages back.
Then put it in a soda-bath to remove the patina, waterproof so far
 

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And it's clean again

ha ha...I went through a few forced patina things then ended up cleaning it up and I'll let time do it's work. Most of the nicest patinas I've seen were all natural ...now if only I can wear it in the ocean in 2 weeks.
Was that just a baking soda bath you did ?
 

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No just regular soda water. I find lemon juice and baking soda too agressive.
It may sound strange but in my experience bronze gets a very uneven patina after being treated with lemon juice.
 

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No just regular soda water. I find lemon juice and baking soda too agressive.
It may sound strange but in my experience bronze gets a very uneven patina after being treated with lemon juice.

I tried the lemon juice/ketchup method also and found it gave my watch a pinkish hue ...I ended up cleaning it with some creme cleaner ...brasso style stuff in a tube.
The watch came out a nice golden bronze and not pink.
 

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If you want a more natural sea air style patina try this. I took a tupperwear container that will seal air tight. Put a small bowl full of sea salt with some water in it. Let it set outside in the sun. Put the watch on the far end of the container from the bowl of sea salt. The air inside the container will be a salty condensate and will give it a nice patina. I let it set out there for about 48 hours.
 

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If you want a more natural sea air style patina try this. I took a tupperwear container that will seal air tight. Put a small bowl full of sea salt with some water in it. Let it set outside in the sun. Put the watch on the far end of the container from the bowl of sea salt. The air inside the container will be a salty condensate and will give it a nice patina. I let it set out there for about 48 hours.

I remarked that you had a beautiful patina on your watch in another thread just slight darkening and some Verdi-gris in the nooks and crannies ... is that what you did ?
 

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I brought my watch to the place that wanted to test it before greasing seals .. he looked it over and said it was not worth it, the watch looked good enough for casual swimming especially since it's new.
He did put some silicone grease around the crown casket after my insistence.
 

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[MENTION=121062]voxx[/MENTION] yep that's all I did to my watch. No boiled egg, no liver of sulfer, just stuck it in an air tight tupper wear container with some sea salt and water and set it outside in the sun.
 

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@droberts ... and your watch is a beautiful specimen.

You should post it in this thread ...I wouldn't mind seeing it again and if I'm not mistaken it was in the "what combo have you chosen today ..." which is like 236 pages long ..trying to find it would be a quite the task.